In Cab cameras on the driver

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SouthernJourneyman's Comment
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Our cameras watch two ways, the driver and out front. It is always "on". But only sends a recording to the camera company if there is an incident or the driver hits the record button. Yes there is a microphone. Works same as the camera.

The reason it is on even when the truck is off is in case some knucklehead hits my front while I'm sleeping. The driver side can't see through the curtain when it is closed.

Like others have said, the company you are going with maybe slowly phasing them in. As a company driver you will find you don't really have much choice in what equipment you are assigned.

Serah D.'s Comment
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I see your point. Sue happy sucks. Not just in the trucking industry...everywhere. Schools, the way you parent your children, someone slipping in their ass in your own PRIVATE driveway, etc. it doesn't stop.

I have done no crimes, I do not have anything to "hide" as in things I have done or not etc. It's more a bout my physical privacy, when I'm alone, doing my thing. As long as I get the job done, I don't want a nanny watching my every moves. But again....I hear you, about the "ambulance chasers". I do understand your point, as well.

I really have nothing against camera installation, but it would be good to know. There are embarrassing things one tends to do when alone.

I worked as a nanny before and most families had cameras. Some told me and others l had to ask. I told them l didn't mind the spying but there were times, for example where the baby would throw up on my clothes and l would have to remove and clean my top. That meant walking kinda naked for awhile.

Maybe it's coz of the drivers who love the lot lizards...... rofl-2.gifrofl-2.gif

Stevo VWbusman's Comment
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You're watched everywhere you go now as it is lol. Cameras are out there at every nook and cranny of cities. As mentioned in the other threads, your cell phone tells on you as well.

Now Facebook has added things, like the "map" of places you've visited, what do you think those are for? Was an article not long ago, Mark Zuckerburg works for, or co-operates with the CIA / NSA etc providing any and all free intel they choose, right off your walls...Look how many idiots have already been busted by things they post, on any social media outlet, thinking it's private pffffft.

Then add in the drones, the satelites etc that can zoom right in on a gnats azz, if they want to, and count his freckles lol

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I've been through this war twice already.

I'm going to get some popcorn and just watch the rest of this topic. Have fun!

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I've been through this war twice already.

I'm going to get some popcorn and just watch the rest of this topic. Have fun!

You're awesome, man. You explained things perfectly. Thanks for that!

I can understand that people are uncomfortable knowing there is a camera on them. I emphasize 'knowing' because all of us are on cameras from the moment we leave the house until we return home but I don't hear anyone saying they're going to boycott convenience stores, intersections, gas pumps, malls, parking lots, rest areas, weigh stations, shippers and receivers, and the rest of public life in America. So you don't hate being on camera, you just hate knowing it.

And of course you're worried about someone seeing you naked cuz you know, the world would end if that happened I guess.

And as was mentioned, nobody seems to mind walking around with a picture camera, GPS chip, video camera, microphone, and accelerometer in your pocket every second of your life so the Government can see you, hear you, and track you every second of your life if they so choose. So that's fine I guess.

But this one camera in the truck is always the straw that broke the camel's back. The million cameras you're on every day or the Government-accessible sensors in your pocket are fine. But not that one camera on the dash.

Not to mention, look at what you went through to get this job in the first place. You had criminal history checks, driving record checks, written tests, driving tests, invasive physicals where strangers are poking and prodding at you, drug tests, employment history checks, credit reports checked, your social media postings combed through, and probably 50 other invasive things.

But this one camera - that does it! You've had it.

I agree that if a camera goes in one company truck, it should be in ALL the trucks. Otherwise, IT IS discrimination.

This is another odd one. Several of you mentioned they should legally have to do it in all trucks if they're going to do it in any. Where in your life did you ever get the idea that every employee at a corporation must be treated exactly the same? Does everyone get a corner office? Does everyone drive a company car? Does everyone get keys to the building?

Good grief!

Listen, the only thing you can do is change companies if you think you're ready to finally take a stand on being monitored. You didn't take a stand for the other 75 invasive things you agreed to and you don't seem interested in taking the Government monitoring device out of your pocket, but if this camera somehow pushes you over the edge then switch companies. That's all you can do. But all companies are going to go to these cameras before long. That's just the reality of it.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Errol V.'s Comment
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All of us are on cameras from the moment we leave the house until we return home

The difference is the driver cam is literally in your face.

Has anyone noticed the number of sensors & cameras on those poles and overheads as you approach a weigh station? They get your picture, so before you pull up to the scalehouse, the DOT knows who's driving, if the seatbelt is on and if you're wearing glasses. Your off-duty partner is supposed to be in the sleeper berth. Why is she sitting in the passenger seat?

Yes psychologically it's tough to have that black thingy with the green light glowing. God forbid the light turns red!

Just imagine the big room back at headquarters: eighty technicians watching 1,200 drivers do their job:
"Truck 28649, driver looking out the side window too long. Inattention!"
"Truck 116498, driver looking at his cell phone! Bring him in!"
"Hey Fred! Get a load of this: 76354 has boxers with the new Star Wars characters already! How'd he get those!"

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Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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The difference is the driver cam is literally in your face

Exactly. That's why people are freakin' out. Of course people scream, "I want my privacy!" but they obviously don't or they wouldn't allow themselves to be on hundreds of cameras every day and they certainly wouldn't carry a cell phone in their pocket. They wouldn't have stripped for the doctor or allowed background checks or taken a drug test if their privacy was that important. They wouldn't be posting pictures of their children on Facebook and they wouldn't be driving around in their four wheeler with "OnStar Onboard".

And of course if they were so worried about being seen naked they wouldn't have done so many of the things they did in college that doesn't get talked about anymore now would they?

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We're not celebrities so we're not used to seeing a camera right in our face. It freaks people out. I mean, look at Google Glass. People thought they wanted Star Trek devices in their lives until they saw one for real and they ran for the hills. Why? Because they knew it had a camera on it and they weren't comfortable with a camera in their face.

You know what you could do to prove that theory? Go up to anyone on the street at an intersection and point out one of the public cameras they can see. Tell them, "Do you know you're on that camera right now?" Even if they hadn't noticed it until that point they wouldn't care once they did notice it. Cameras are everywhere. But then take the cellphone out of your pocket, hold it straight at their face, and tell them you're going to record them for a little while why they walk down the road. They'll freak out! Like, "You're not going to put a camera in my face when I'm walking down the road." They'll accept the camera up on a light pole, but not in their face. That's totally different.

Errol V.'s Comment
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And of course if they were so worried about being seen naked they wouldn't have done so many of the things they did in college that doesn't get talked about anymore now would they?

"Talked about"? "Talked about"? Brett, this is the 21st century now. It's on YouTube or worse! Forever!

SamTon's Comment
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I have gotten used to the camera in the cab though I don't like it or the ones Brett talks about. 18 years later I haven't died from it. Errol does your camera stay on even after the key turns off?

RebelliousVamp 's Comment
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I guess you guys didn't *read* or comprehend what I wrote in my previous posts. I'll say it again, hopefully maybe with different words, so you do understand; I don't have anything to hide as far as "data" wise (where I've been, where I shop, my non existent criminal background, etc etc) I also *behave* differently as soon as I "walk out my door" when I KNOW the safety of my home no longer allows me physical privacy. There are certain things that I might do in private that I will never do in public, because it's embarrassing. Therefor, go ahead when I'm out in public and have a camera on me. I'm aware, and I will behave accordingly. But that's why I love to go home, where I can relax, not worry about anyone seeing me scratch my butt crack, burp, fart, pick at my teeth and everything else in between. I know some of you do that stuff out in public and don't care. Personally, I have manners and hold myself properly when not in the privacy of my home. Brett, you talk about "God forbid that anyone would see me naked"....excuse me but if anyone is going to see me naked, it's going to be with MY CONSENT, PERIOD. No one has that right over my body! So unless you're my partner, my doctor or emergency personal trying to save my life, my body is none of your business unless I say so. You might not mind it yourself, doesn't mean it makes it ok for others to invade that part of your privacy.

Granted IT IS invasion of privacy to spy on everyone, everywhere you go, doesn't make it ok, but people kinda accept it. I do mind cameras watching our every moves, everywhere we go. So saying that we only mind because we know of one particular camera, doesn't apply for everyone. I totally understand some of the places we go have a NEED for cameras, for safety reasons, for example. Government buildings, police station, convenience stores, etc.

I wouldn't mind having a camera in the cab, facing in the front of the truck, in case an accident happen. But one facing the driver? What for? If you don't trust me as an employee, then don't hire me, simple. I'm a grown woman, I don't need to have a watch dog. Having a camera right in your face is the odd thing here. Ah. I think I need to walk away from this thread. I'm getting heated...lollll

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