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Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

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In my case, I was having too much fun screwing with him to get off his truck. LOL

JJ

DSTURBD's Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

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My thoughts exactly. I dread running into my first trainer on the yard as I am afraid I will go to jail! He needs a serious beat-down and I would love to give it to him. The company was great about getting me off his truck right away though, and onto a truck with a great trainer and I am now solo and loving it!!! I did the same as you. I tried to just gut it out and get done, until he started saying that he wasn't going to sign off on my training anyway. At that point, I knew I was just wasting valuable time being on his truck.

Do NOT stay on that guy's truck!! You are doing yourself an injustice if you do as there are trainers out there who care and will make the whole thing fun and informative so you will have confidence when you get your truck.

DSTURBD

John B.'s Comment
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Thank you so much, guys!!! It's hard to make the phone call during the day. I just now had the guts to make that phone call tonight. It's been hard . It's pretty much drive and sleep. Been sick. I think it's because lack of hygiene. Night crew was more than happy to help me out. We're delivering at 90 tomorrow so that's when they told me to make the call. Hopefully all goes well. I hope my trainer doesn't have nasty things to say about me in return. He made accusations that his last student ran a family off the road when his trainee complained. I sure will keep you guys updated. Thank you so much for caring and helping out. I will sure return the favor later on as I get more exposure to the industry .

Pianoman's Comment
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I sure will keep you guys updated.

Yes please do! Good luck!

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John B.'s Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

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Many of the "problem trainers" are either new to training or the students have not had the guts to report them. Students do not realize the companies will believe them, or they fear getting fired as a trouble maker.

In this case my trainer has just started training. I'm his second TNT student. Third student overall. His first student was PSD. He had problems with his last TNT student so hopefully I can get another trainer without any drama involved. I just talked to my fleet manager and he was more than helpful. He told me that he was going to get us a load to Springfield. So the process has already begun!! I just hope my career doesn't end because of this. I'm very stressed out about what's going to be coming up in the next few days. Rainy, will you please explain the procedure it took to get yourself hooked up with another trainer??

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

G-Town's Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

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Many of the "problem trainers" are either new to training or the students have not had the guts to report them. Students do not realize the companies will believe them, or they fear getting fired as a trouble maker.

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In this case my trainer has just started training. I'm his second TNT student. Third student overall. His first student was PSD. He had problems with his last TNT student so hopefully I can get another trainer without any drama involved. I just talked to my fleet manager and he was more than helpful. He told me that he was going to get us a load to Springfield. So the process has already begun!! I just hope my career doesn't end because of this. I'm very stressed out about what's going to be coming up in the next few days. Rainy, will you please explain the procedure it took to get yourself hooked up with another trainer??

John...I do understand your angst. It sounds like due-process has begun. Focus on your driving and do not allow the stress of this influence your choices/decisions or compromise your focus. For the moment forget about it...and drive.

Not trying to be harsh, but at some point you gotta grow a set and stand-up for what is right and be your own advocate. Your trainer sounds like a total jack-a**, do not worry about getting fired. You deserve better, and at the very least a shower every other day. You basically have one good shot at training and totally justified in requesting a change.

Write everything down that occurred, organize it, and have a simple plan for how you intend to present the information so you are not distracted or thrown off-track. If he (your current trainer) is in the same room with you, do not make any eye contact, stick to the facts, and maintain a professional demeanor and attitude. Let him sink his own boat, rise above him. If possible get that shower before the meeting...hopefully "stinky" hasn't "washed his self" and causes the flowers to wilt. Try your best to keep the emotion at bay and do not allow it to show. It will work itself out.

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Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

confused.gifundefinedwtf.gif

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Many of the "problem trainers" are either new to training or the students have not had the guts to report them. Students do not realize the companies will believe them, or they fear getting fired as a trouble maker.

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In this case my trainer has just started training. I'm his second TNT student. Third student overall. His first student was PSD. He had problems with his last TNT student so hopefully I can get another trainer without any drama involved. I just talked to my fleet manager and he was more than helpful. He told me that he was going to get us a load to Springfield. So the process has already begun!! I just hope my career doesn't end because of this. I'm very stressed out about what's going to be coming up in the next few days. Rainy, will you please explain the procedure it took to get yourself hooked up with another trainer??

In this type of situation they will find you another trainer. The FM wants to keep you on his board (not only do trainers get bonuses but FM make money off the truck miles and upgrade bonuses). Usually they will put you with a trainer that has a good reputation because they don't want you to have a bad experience.

You are NOT getting fired!!!!!! I repeat you are NOT getting fired. Prime knows accusations can go both ways and documents incidents. One negative report is probably not going to hurt either of you...but if you are his third student and his third negative report...something will be done with him. They try to re educate the trainers and give them mentors to help them improve.

Just get your stuff to campus inn... Call the FM to get you a room and then go see him. Hell probably already have a trainer lined up. U might have to be in the room a couple days but WILL get paid.

Let me know if you have any issues. U didn't say who the FM is.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

John B.'s Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

confused.gifundefinedwtf.gif

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Many of the "problem trainers" are either new to training or the students have not had the guts to report them. Students do not realize the companies will believe them, or they fear getting fired as a trouble maker.

double-quotes-end.png

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In this case my trainer has just started training. I'm his second TNT student. Third student overall. His first student was PSD. He had problems with his last TNT student so hopefully I can get another trainer without any drama involved. I just talked to my fleet manager and he was more than helpful. He told me that he was going to get us a load to Springfield. So the process has already begun!! I just hope my career doesn't end because of this. I'm very stressed out about what's going to be coming up in the next few days. Rainy, will you please explain the procedure it took to get yourself hooked up with another trainer??

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In this type of situation they will find you another trainer. The FM wants to keep you on his board (not only do trainers get bonuses but FM make money off the truck miles and upgrade bonuses). Usually they will put you with a trainer that has a good reputation because they don't want you to have a bad experience.

You are NOT getting fired!!!!!! I repeat you are NOT getting fired. Prime knows accusations can go both ways and documents incidents. One negative report is probably not going to hurt either of you...but if you are his third student and his third negative report...something will be done with him. They try to re educate the trainers and give them mentors to help them improve.

Just get your stuff to campus inn... Call the FM to get you a room and then go see him. Hell probably already have a trainer lined up. U might have to be in the room a couple days but WILL get paid.

Let me know if you have any issues. U didn't say who the FM is.

John Bloomberg.. I think that's his last name. I kind of made myself sound stupid over the phone because of how nervous I was. But I'm sure he also got my point. He asked me specifically about his anger because they dealt with him before.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

John B.'s Comment
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Some of you are too nice. If anybody was treating me like that I would beat their A$$ back into last week. What is up with some of these Training horror stories. These Companies need to get a handle on things. I might understand if it was Jim Bob's Trucking with 3 trucks, but these are Big National Carriers!

confused.gifundefinedwtf.gif

double-quotes-end.png

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Many of the "problem trainers" are either new to training or the students have not had the guts to report them. Students do not realize the companies will believe them, or they fear getting fired as a trouble maker.

double-quotes-end.png

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In this case my trainer has just started training. I'm his second TNT student. Third student overall. His first student was PSD. He had problems with his last TNT student so hopefully I can get another trainer without any drama involved. I just talked to my fleet manager and he was more than helpful. He told me that he was going to get us a load to Springfield. So the process has already begun!! I just hope my career doesn't end because of this. I'm very stressed out about what's going to be coming up in the next few days. Rainy, will you please explain the procedure it took to get yourself hooked up with another trainer??

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John...I do understand your angst. It sounds like due-process has begun. Focus on your driving and do not allow the stress of this influence your choices/decisions or compromise your focus. For the moment forget about it...and drive.

Not trying to be harsh, but at some point you gotta grow a set and stand-up for what is right and be your own advocate. Your trainer sounds like a total jack-a**, do not worry about getting fired. You deserve batter, and at the very least a shower every other day. You basically have one good shot at training and totally justified in requesting a change.

Write everything down that occurred, organize it, and have a simple plan for how you intend to present the information so you are not distracted or thrown off-track. If he (your current trainer) is in the same room with you, do not make any eye contact, stick to the facts, and maintain a professional demeanor and attitude. Let him sink his own boat, rise above him. If possible get that shower before the meeting...hopefully "stinky" hasn't "washed his self" and causes the flowers to wilt. Try your best to keep the emotion at bay and do not allow it to show. It will work itself out.

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Oh. He started giving me showers once he saw I got sick. I've had two so far now. Im sure he was afraid of getting in trouble. So I'm all fresh and shaved now but still a little under the weather. :( He hasn't had one shower yet!!!! Ugh so gross.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Mario V.'s Comment
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Oh. He started giving me showers once he saw I got sick. I've had two so far now. Im sure he was afraid of getting in trouble. So I'm all fresh and shaved now but still a little under the weather. :( He hasn't had one shower yet!!!! Ugh so gross.

I would have told the trainer straight up " you either shower now or you don't get back in the truck, this ain't no democracy"

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