Got Pulled Over!

Joshua P says...

I only used it when out of hours...

Wait, what? In your original post you never mentioned being out of hours. Were you in fact out of hours when you off-duty drove to the truck stop? If so, there's no gray area there. That's a clear violation.

Joshua P says...

I only used it when out of hours...

Wait, what? In your original post you never mentioned being out of hours. Were you in fact out of hours when you off-duty drove to the truck stop? If so, there's no gray area there. That's a clear violation.

Have you ever used od driving? Have you seen the qc message that comes up when you use it? My original post was mentioning using od driving based on that message, i even showed the trooper the message and he never heared of it. Now the recent post i mentioned when im out of hours i used it when empty. To add to it i was not on a load and had to vacate the property. I no longer use od driving at all not even on the way home, ill go into violation before i use it. The trooper did mention that if you have no hours to drive and the shipper or reciever tells you to leave, they will be held liable.

Yes I've used OD driving several times and have received the qc mssg each time. But I think it's just a generic computer generated mssg triggered by the OD use. It doesn't differentiate between illegal or legal use. In other words, it doesn't know if you are out of hours when it spits out the mssg.

The 14 hr rule is pretty clear though. You can't drive at all after 14 hrs, irregardless of OD driving, loaded or unloaded.

So what I'm saying is if you were out of hours and still OD driving, that would be the reason for the falsification ticket.

I wasn't trying to be critical, just trying to understand for clarification. I can see where the qc mssg is confusing and could lead many drivers to think it's ok to use line 5 even though they are out of hours.

Maybe that's why so many companies don't allow line 5.

First time posting, I recently ran into a situation myself where dispatch was telling me that I could use line5 to drive my tractor trailer, empty, to the nearest safe haven after delivery. From what I understand this was not the intended use of personal conveyance/line5 and it seems like the FMCSA agrees. The quote below is from the background information provided in paragraph 2 of the FMCSA proposed changes to the interpretation, link here hopefully FMCSA Proposed changes

"The previous guidance, which required the CMV to be unladen, was written for combination vehicles, where the driver could readily detach the trailer and use the unladen tractor for personal conveyance."

On top of that, this circumstance in particular is called out explicitly as being a continuation of the trip under section b3 of the proposal.

"Continuation of a CMV trip in interstate commerce , even after the vehicle is unloaded. In this scenario, on-duty time does not end until the driver reaches a location designated or authorized by the carrier for parking or storage of the CMV, such as a permanent residence, authorized lodging, or home terminal."