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Seadragon H.'s Comment
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All companies that hire new cdl grads have finish training. Trucking companies won't hire new cdl grads and just throw them to the wolves in that expensive equipment. New drivers get caught up with the companies schools push and don't realize there's 350,000 trucking companies in the USA. Schools usually push 4 or 5 companies to the students because it makes their job placement easier because they don't have to spend hours and hours researching for what's available. The smaller, less known companies I mention to people are real picky about who they hire from cdl schools, so to be accepted should be a high compliment; the bar is set high.

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Seadragon...I get that. And obviously they offer finish training, however how good is it, to what extent, and what can you offer describing your first hand

Objectivity is the best approach when a newbie has narrowed their field to two or three finalists. And then out of the blue you reply with "check out ABC Company, they hire trainees." I could easily throw out other options to Buck weat, but that will only confuse him and compromise my role as a Moderator.

experience with any of them? We discourage here say on TT.

I think your heart is in the right place but forgive me, you seem to be on a mission to dissuade the newbie's from the Mega Carriers. (Am I the only one who is reading this pattern?).

I have already suggested (asked) you to provide more details to Brett to include in the TT review wiki. Otherwise what you offer is little more than name dropping.

We are here to offer proven options for the student prospect, options that are backed up with first hand experiences as shared in the diary section.

OK,I get it. I have noticed there's about 4 posters that seem to control the website and to run afoul of them is a big no-no. There doesn't seem to be open discourse or room for fresh ideas. This is why you have so little participation on this forum and so many posts are years old with little to no response; "It's my way or the highway." I'll just log off now and won't return.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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All companies that hire new cdl grads have finish training. Trucking companies won't hire new cdl grads and just throw them to the wolves in that expensive equipment. New drivers get caught up with the companies schools push and don't realize there's 350,000 trucking companies in the USA. Schools usually push 4 or 5 companies to the students because it makes their job placement easier because they don't have to spend hours and hours researching for what's available. The smaller, less known companies I mention to people are real picky about who they hire from cdl schools, so to be accepted should be a high compliment; the bar is set high.

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Seadragon...I get that. And obviously they offer finish training, however how good is it, to what extent, and what can you offer describing your first hand

Objectivity is the best approach when a newbie has narrowed their field to two or three finalists. And then out of the blue you reply with "check out ABC Company, they hire trainees." I could easily throw out other options to Buck weat, but that will only confuse him and compromise my role as a Moderator.

experience with any of them? We discourage here say on TT.

I think your heart is in the right place but forgive me, you seem to be on a mission to dissuade the newbie's from the Mega Carriers. (Am I the only one who is reading this pattern?).

I have already suggested (asked) you to provide more details to Brett to include in the TT review wiki. Otherwise what you offer is little more than name dropping.

We are here to offer proven options for the student prospect, options that are backed up with first hand experiences as shared in the diary section.

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OK,I get it. I have noticed there's about 4 posters that seem to control the website and to run afoul of them is a big no-no. There doesn't seem to be open discourse or room for fresh ideas. This is why you have so little participation on this forum and so many posts are years old with little to no response; "It's my way or the highway." I'll just log off now and won't return.

Offer something more than a name...offer your experience with any of your suggestions...offer some real information.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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The smaller, less known companies I mention to people are real picky about who they hire from cdl schools, so to be accepted should be a high compliment; the bar is set high.

No company that hires students straight out of school with no experience has high hiring standards. What, you can't have a felony or dui and you need a stable work history to get hired somewhere means they're a better company to work for? Baloney. Prove that for us if you could. Not heresy, but clear proof of that across the board.

Those mega outfits aren't as welcoming as the smaller companies like Kiem TS.

Prove that for us. Again, not heresy, but real proof that smaller companies are more welcoming than larger companies.

PI&I Motor Express in Masury,OH is flatbed and Teamsters and hires new grads. Nick Strimbu Inc. has the better reputation though. If it were me, would go with Nick Strimbu Inc. reefer division, but that's me; you will decide what's best for you and your family.

Better reputation? That sounds pretty scientific. Should be piles of evidence to back your theory so we can demonstrate clearly exactly why you would choose that company over the other. And another thing - no matter how you try to word it, you are indeed recommending a company to someone when you say that's the company you would choose. To say, "But you can choose whatever one you like" does not relieve you of the responsibility of giving someone career advice specifically recommending that company. That's exactly what you've done by saying that. That's the reality of that.

See, G-Town is right. You're jumping around here throwing around mostly obscure company names and acting as if you have some sort of special knowledge that people need to know about them. But do you? Or have you created a long list of personal opinions about various companies without any real scientific evidence to back any of it?

Trucking has no shortage of guys running around asking anyone and everyone how they like working for their company. They're constantly on the lookout for new names and new ideas. They're always scouring the job ads. They're always trying to get the latest scoop and find a hidden gem. And that's fine. Maybe that's what you do, or maybe you're a recruiter of some sort, I don't know. But you sure seem to believe you know enough about a long list of companies to come here and publicly make career suggestions based upon it.

I have noticed there's about 4 posters that seem to control the website and to run afoul of them is a big no-no. There doesn't seem to be open discourse or room for fresh ideas.

Are you providing fresh ideas, or are you providing personal opinions disguised as scientific facts worthy of basing career decisions upon? That's what we're asking. We'd like fewer unsubstantiated, unquantifiable opinions and more evidence to back up your opinions. You know why? Because as you've noticed this forum isn't like the others. This isn't a gigantic screaming match of unfounded opinions full of lies, misinformation, conflicting information, and heresy.

This forum is a tight community of very successful, experienced drivers helping new drivers find the safest, surest path to getting their career off to a great start. We rarely give highly specific recommendations on what school or company to choose because there is a long list of factors for each person to consider individually. We teach people which factors are important to consider and we help them evaluate companies for themselves. Things like home time, pay, benefits, types of freight, types of equipment, length of training, and things like that. Tangible, quantifiable facts. Not opinions. Not reputations. Not "something some guy at a truck stop told you" kinda stuff like you're providing.

For you to say things like, "Go with company A because they're more accommodating" or "Go with company B because they have a good reputation" is simply not the type of information we would expect people to base their career decision on. There are tons and tons of quantifiable and tangible factors for each person to consider regarding the school and the company they choose. That's our philosophy on how to choose a school or a company.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Errol V.'s Comment
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Seadragon pouts:

OK,I get it. I have noticed there's about 4 posters that seem to control the website and to run afoul of them is a big no-no. There doesn't seem to be open discourse or room for fresh ideas. This is why you have so little participation on this forum and so many posts are years old with little to no response; "It's my way or the highway." I'll just log off now and won't return.

The only real control anyone has is with Brett. All other contributors simply join in with their own opinions and ideas. The thing that gets "shouted down" is outright negativity. It's no secret that I drive for Swift. I will speak specifically about Swift policies, and only generally about other carriers by name. Common topics are worth my two cents only from my own experience and in repeating/ condensing things I read on the forum.

And I promise you, negative postings are rare here because the poster will get called out. And there has been some negative things that can be believed (some road training experiences come to mind). And there's always the "heads up", like watching out for financial and non-compete clauses in contacts.

Maybe you missed the OPEN DISCOURSE in topics like split sleeper, truck stop living, dealing with DMs, choosing a company, bringing a bicycle along, and so on.

Here's your call out:

so many posts are years old with little to no response;

Have you been down into the sediment of this forum? Have you been reading all those unanswered posts, like what? The was even discussion recently about bringing a pet bird along.

Please don't be so thin skinned. Just be more realistic in bringing your "Experienced Driver" experience to this forum. That will be welcomed.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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I will only say this about your claim toward favoritism toward Swift and Schneider...that is unfounded. MUCH has been posted about other companies...I myself have a few on the company for which I work, Prime. There are others that post about Prime as well, such as Rainy and Turtle, among others. I also know there are many who post about other carriers. We pay about that which we know. I have NEVER been pushed toward one carrier or another here, especially when I was looking for info on which to choose. In fact, there was a very obvious push for me to make my OWN decision based on whatever info I could find...here or elsewhere. Everyone has been extremely supportive. This site is not the enemy...

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I will only say this about your claim toward favoritism toward Swift and Schneider...that is unfounded. MUCH has been posted about other companies...I myself have a few on the company for which I work, Prime. There are others that post about Prime as well, such as Rainy and Turtle, among others. I also know there are many who post about other carriers. We pay about that which we know. I have NEVER been pushed toward one carrier or another here, especially when I was looking for info on which to choose. In fact, there was a very obvious push for me to make my OWN decision based on whatever info I could find...here or elsewhere. Everyone has been extremely supportive. This site is not the enemy...

I deleted the insults (and banned the person) whose response you were referring to that we only promote two or three companies here. His feelings were just hurt because we didn't take his personal opinions to be gospel the way he expected. We have over 100 companies in our Trucking Company Reviews with 73 different data points on each one and we have reviews on 23 different Company-Sponsored Training Programs with over 80 pages of information in that section. We also have hundreds and hundreds of pages of Truck Driving Jobs that you can apply to directly from our website so obviously that guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

I have NEVER been pushed toward one carrier or another here, especially when I was looking for info on which to choose. In fact, there was a very obvious push for me to make my OWN decision

That's been our goal from day one.......to teach people which factors are important when choosing a school or company and give them the information needed to make the right choice for themselves. This "good company/bad company" game that other sites like to play is pure baloney and we've always known that. We can do a whole lot better for our visitors than just using the same ol' truck stop rumor mill to choose a company. "Oh I heard Company B doesn't treat their drivers well and Company C doesn't have much freight available but Company A really cares about their drivers" - that kind of stuff is nothing but a pile of baloney.

Choose the right school or company for yourself based upon tangible and quantifiable facts. Simple as that. For those getting ready to do just that I highly recommend you check out our Truck Driver's Career Guide. You will find over 70 pages of information in our career guide that covers everything from A to Z when it comes to understanding this industry and getting your career off to a great start.

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Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Buck_weat's Comment
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Just a quick update - I ultimately decided to go to Maverick. I am currently going through orientation, and I think I made a good choice. I have enjoyed the experience so far. I passed the DOT physical and agility tests today, which I was a little worried about. But it was not as hard as I had thought it might be.

C.T., maybe I'll see you around if you get back through Little Rock.

Thanks again, everyone, for all of your help. I really appreciate it.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

C T.'s Comment
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I'll be in NLR tomorrow I think lol. I'd say you made the right choice. No bias here. Btw if you recruit your buddies you can get 4k for referrals on tcd drivers. They must really need them. Roll on

Buck_weat's Comment
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I'll be in NLR tomorrow I think lol. I'd say you made the right choice. No bias here. Btw if you recruit your buddies you can get 4k for referrals on tcd drivers. They must really need them. Roll on

Yeah, they mentioned the referral. That could add up very quickly! I ended up going with the glass division, so I'll see how that goes. If it is too hard for me, I might switch to TCD. Maybe I could get my own referral bonus! LOL

C T.'s Comment
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I'm considering switching to glass because of the pay but it doesn't do me any good for home time. You will earn that cpm for sure. Also, not sure if things have changed but that 1st Tuesday after orientation was a VERY long day lol. Best of luck

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

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