Truck Accident In Cali

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Old School's Comment
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Oh boy, I absolutely can't believe what I am reading! rofl-3.gifconfused.gifwtf.gif

G-Town's Comment
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You guys DO REALIZE that the other guy broke the traffic laws don't you? Are you guys that big of MORONS? Put it this way, in court he would LOSE. Do you idiots understand that? HE WOULD LOSE. Do I need to cite other cases as precedents? I can show you guys cases that would clearly side with me, yet you people would STILL villify me. Because you need to get your way. Because of your mob mentality. I am talking about LEGALITY here. Could I have made more effort? YES! But when I changed lanes HE WAS NOT THERE. GET IT? Does that mean I would lose in court? NO! And that is what my whole rant was about. ABOUT THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT. So let me pose to you guys another scenario: I DO check my mirrors throughout the whole meneuver, and notice him swing around and try to pass. HOWEVER, I can't do anything because another guy just took the hole I vacated and now I can't get back. Now what?

Your insults mean nothing to me...I am not paying off a $2000 mistake. Who is the idiot?

Get a lawyer then...you admitted you could have prevented it. You are a trained professional, you did not do your job. Stop hiding behind the law, you sh** the bed and now you gotta sleep in it.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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You guys DO REALIZE that the other guy broke the traffic laws don't you?

Since when is passing someone on the right breaking a law?

But when I changed lanes HE WAS NOT THERE.

You ran him over!!!! He was obviously there!!!

That's it, man. You have now crossed over to the realm of delusional. Your view of reality and what actually happened has morphed into literally two opposite things at this point.

Like Old School said:

They always have a plausible (to them) explanation, and will therefore detrimentally defend themselves to the bitter end.
G-Town's Comment
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Oh boy, I absolutely can't believe what I am reading! rofl-3.gifconfused.gifwtf.gif

Ditto

Old School's Comment
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judging by your stance, the laws don't matter. Are you that arrogant? Are you above the laws?

I can't even try to follow your delusional thought processes. YOU smashed some dudes car into the jersey barrier. I've driven Rigs for years without scratching a thing.

Do you always dig yourself such a big hole when trying to make a logical argument? At some point a wise man will realize he needs to stop digging and rethink his approach.

Lionheart13's Comment
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Lionheart, please look at this from a different perspective: I'm going to preface it with a real-world example, using my wife. We live in a foreign country where the drivers are INSANE. Yes, the laws here do state that pedestrians have right-of-way, but the traffic laws are laughingly referred to as 'suggestions.' Not kidding; people turn left against red lights, blow thru stop signs, pass in the ONCOMING traffic lane, expecting oncoming traffic to slide over onto their shoulder. Back to my wife; she will cross the street where she legally has the right-of-way, daring cars to hit her. I pull her back when I can. I tell her all the time, you're going to be laid up in traction in the hospital, all four limbs in casts, suspended in the air, claiming... "but I had right-of-way!" In a nutshell, that's you in this situation. Legally you may have been in the right, but what everyone is trying to make you understand is that you still had the opportunity to avoid the collision. My wife has the opportunity to just not cross the street until it is clear. She, by the way, initially sided with your argument. But I told her, that you should not have stopped checking your mirrors until the maneuver was completed. If this had been done you would have seen the car coming up on your right. If there's an industry where following the legal letter of the law can end very badly for you and others, it's trucking. I've read countless times in The High Road Training Course that while speed limits are posted, a truck should not be driving that fast under various circumstances (i.e. around curves). Simply being right here isn't good enough. Truckers are held to higher standards; they just are.

Pete, I appreciate your tone. Believe me, I didn't want to hit the guy just because the law was on my side. If I had been more diligent, I would have avoided it. However, I DIDN'T. So now I have to fall back on the legal side. That is all I was trying to convey. I ADMIT I should have looked again. That is not in question. But since I didn't, now I have to explore the legal side. If I am found NOT AT FAULT, does Stevens have the RIGHT to take my money? THAT was the original question. These guys want to IGNORE the protection I am getting from the laws which are DESIGNED to protect not just us, but the whole motoring public.

Did you see what that other guy just wrote? "Go hide behind the law". LOL. How can I fight a guy like that. Laws that are there to protect, not to hide behind.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Farmerbob1's Comment
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I work for Stevens, and agree that there is quite a bit of buffoonery at the company. It IS a privately owned company and there's certainly some folks who have positions at the company that can't possibly be due to their competence.

However, that still doesn't make you right.

The other driver may have broken the law, but YOU are held to a higher standard. That's why you are called a professional driver.

Stevens was probably offered the opportunity to settle out of court since nobody was hurt. They took it, and you should be damned glad they did, because if you had gone into court with a jury, a good lawyer would turn the jury against you so fast your head would spin. Juries DO NOT LIKE truckers, and a high dollar attorney that specializes in truck cases after Stevens Transport for big $$ would FIND something they could use against you.

Remember this:

1. You do not have to do something illegal in order to be responsible for an accident.

2. You are responsible for an accident if there was anything you could have been reasonably expected to do that would have prevented it.

3. Checking mirrors when performing lane changes is expected behavior.

All that said, thank you for posting this, because I will now be more cautious when entering truck/climbing lanes.

G-Town's Comment
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You are so full of sh** and totally disrespectful. You do not have the "chops" to manage 100 people unless it was Daddy's company. I can tell by the way you write and contradict yourself. If you had half a brain you wouldn't have posted this in the first place. C'mon dude, stop with the BS.

So did the officer issue the driver of the 4 wheeler a ticket for breaking any laws? NO. You never mentioned that...without that your story falls apart.

What law did you break? You know, the one about taking a space already occupied...yielding to the vehicle already occupying it. You broke that one...exactly what I mean about hiding behind the law. It's not one sided. Quit while you are ahead. You got off easy, too damn bullheaded to realize it and you are busting our balls for calling you on it.

C'mon dude, tap out, you're done, busted.

Old School's Comment
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C'mon dude, tap out

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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To the bitter end.
To the bitter, bitter end.
To the bitter, bitter, bitter end.
To the bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter end.
To the bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter end.

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