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How do you feel about driver facing cameras?

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Errol V.'s Comment
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It's not a matter that the camera is "useless" for the driver. It's the company truck, doing company business. You are a company driver, even as a Lease Owner.

"Useless to the driver"? You know if you have an accident that goes to court, the lawyers (both sides) will take you apart - sleep schedule, pre-trip, paying attention, driver record going back 10 years, maybe even clean underwear. It will be a piece of cake if there is a video of you watching what is going on, and the 4-wheeler being stupid instead of getting drilled on the witness stand about if you were paying attention or not.

Yes, on the other hand, I have been called in for eating Oreos. (The buzz strip alarm went off twice, and triggered the camera.) As for privacy, as ChickieMonster points out, your privacy, your off time, is your time. You do not need the driver side camera. You can cover it. Swift has sent a message that the camera will be reprogrammed to be off when the ignition is off.

You can dislike driver cams, automatic transmissions and crash avoiding brakes. Sorry, you do not own that truck and the company will be covering their assets the best they can.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Paul W.'s Comment
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It's no different than working at say, Walmart, where there are security cameras everywhere.

EXACTLY what I say to people who ask me. I used to work for a call center (ugh) where there were security cameras covering every inch of the floor (since our sole client at that location was a bank)--pretty sure they were actually recording ALL the time, not just when "triggered." In comparison, driver-facing cameras really aren't that bad.

To answer Mr. M, they are absolutely of benefit to the driver. It proves your innocence if you are in a collision and had both hands on the wheel, paying attention, not nodding off, and (in conjunction with outward facing cameras) were not tailgating, speeding, etc. They also serve to keep drivers accountable. I got caught on my phone once. ONCE. Never again, and I never should have been on the phone in the first place (I think this is the first time I've even mentioned it on here because of how embarrassed I am about it). That doesn't just help ME by giving me additional motivation to curb bad behaviors, but it also helps EVERY OTHER DRIVER on the road when I or other drivers stop unsafe behaviors. I should have cared more about the safety factor to begin with, but I'm telling ya, it got my attention real quick when I almost lost my job over it.

Yeah, it would totally be an invasion of privacy if they were recording me in the sleeper (I would never go for that), but they do NOT do that and probably (hopefully) never will.

I like my camera.

Farmerbob1's Comment
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Wow, Farmerbob. That might be a new record for the most rumor, heresy, and false science I've read in such a short comment. You didn't waste a word. I'm not even going to bother to quote any of it or respond to any of it other than to say it mostly belongs in the trash bin. None of it was fact, none of it can be counted on, none of it was factual, and the one thing you did state as being a fact is clearly your opinion, and it's already been debunked a hundred times.

But this thread was almost doomed to the trash bin the moment I read the subject line. I knew we'd get all kinds of baloney.

If driver-facing cameras actually start implement eye-tracking, and active safety features, rather than simply being a way for companies to bash drivers, I might reconsider their utility. That doesn't stop them from being an invasion of privacy, but they could become an invasion of privacy that is worth accepting. Maybe. Right now, they are not, IMHO.

If you feel differently, great. I respect your opinion, even if you don't respect mine.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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People against them obviously didn't share a two bedroom house with four siblings as a child. I never knew privacy. Lol

Patrick R.'s Comment
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Life lesson from todays post...dont pick your nose on camers lol. Thats about all i can offer to this particular thread considering its content.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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If you feel differently, great. I respect your opinion, even if you don't respect mine.

It's not that. The problem is that everything you said is either unfounded rumors or has already been debunked a hundred times, like the 'invasion of privacy' thing. I can understand if people don't want cameras or aren't comfortable with them. But all of your statements have "that's only vague scuttlebutt", "I've heard they may", or "It is my understanding".

Are you familiar with the name of our website? Been around 10 years now. It's not TruckingRumors, TruckingBaloney, TruckingAssumptions .......stick with sharing the facts you know.

Matt W.'s Comment
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I'm not a driver however I worked for a large fleet that had drivecams and if you hit a bump to hard it triggered.Well I was driving a truck from the lot to the garage dark raining and the glare from the lights in the lot were horrible not to try to have excuses by no means but I was just creeping in the lot the last thing I thought about was the giant pot hole I knew was there. Well I hit it and triggered the camera I wasn't really ready for it and I just started saying words that my mother would not approve of a bunch of them cursing the company for not fixing the pot hole that sorta thing didn't remember the camera until I seen it had already triggered but by the next day the pot hole did get repaired and I didn't get fired which I was a bit concerned with after the language I had used to myself or so I thought.

Mr M's Comment
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Wow called in for eating Oreos. geesh. And yes exactly it is their truck you either play by their rules or choose to work elsewhere. I wouldn't work with a cam facing me. I do have a traffic facing cam that is my limit. if the rules got to ridiculous I'd either buy my own truck or go back to being a network engineer.

It's not a matter that the camera is "useless" for the driver. It's the company truck, doing company business. You are a company driver, even as a Lease Owner.

"Useless to the driver"? You know if you have an accident that goes to court, the lawyers (both sides) will take you apart - sleep schedule, pre-trip, paying attention, driver record going back 10 years, maybe even clean underwear. It will be a piece of cake if there is a video of you watching what is going on, and the 4-wheeler being stupid instead of getting drilled on the witness stand about if you were paying attention or not.

Yes, on the other hand, I have been called in for eating Oreos. (The buzz strip alarm went off twice, and triggered the camera.) As for privacy, as ChickieMonster points out, your privacy, your off time, is your time. You do not need the driver side camera. You can cover it. Swift has sent a message that the camera will be reprogrammed to be off when the ignition is off.

You can dislike driver cams, automatic transmissions and crash avoiding brakes. Sorry, you do not own that truck and the company will be covering their assets the best they can.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Sambo11513's Comment
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One benefit to a driver is, if you are in an accident, and the other driver says "I saw him with his phone in his hand before he hit us", and you didn't, the camera will help defend you if you were doing nothing wrong.

Tractor Man's Comment
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Farmerbob and Mr. M....... Do us all a favor, take your BS over to the TruckerReport. You are both WAY too smart and of superior intelect to any of the rest of us on this forum. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out!

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