8 People Found Dead In Tractor Trailer

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Rainy D.'s Comment
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Even a freshman on the high school debate team knows that once someone starts hurling insults and names, he admits defeat. He can no longer use logic to validate his argument or refute his opponent's and resorts to such tactics.

I stated these people took a calculated risk and gave informed consent to be transported. They chose after careful consideration. You imply they could not have foreseen this outcome, despite the fact that even more people died in a similar situation in 2003. By your implication you are insulting the intelligence of the very people for whom you claim to have compassion. Hence you are calling them idiots. You did the same on the other thread when you stated the drivers were taken advantage of due to ignorance.

So who's the bigot? Me who assumes they are intelligent and make their own decision or you who wants to characterize them as unsuspecting victims?

Our servicemen police and firemen accept these calculated risks to their health and safety for the betterment of our society. Unfortunately they do not receive the amount of respect they deserve. These people did it for the betterment of their own situation and family. Taking that into consideration, perhaps we should release all the drug dealers, bank robbers, embezzlers and any other criminal whose crimes were about financial gain. People are calling for the death penalty for the driver. But wasn't he too just tying to help his family?

As for my heart....it goes out to the 8 year old girls of Swaziland who get raped by their AIDS infected teachers in the classroom because of the belief sex with a virgin will cure the disease.

My heart goes out to the girls who are held down by their mothers and grandmothers while their genitals are mutilated without anesthesia.

It goes out to the women in some countries who get stoned or set afire as punishment for being raped.

Where were you after 9/11? I spent my time off helping police and firefighters comb through the rubble to find victims and evidence.Do you really think we stopped to look at color?

Where were you after Katrina? I took a leave of absence from work to rent a U Haul to shuttle supplies all over the devastated areas.

Where is your outrage for the Haiti earthquake survivors who STIlL don't have running water or housing because elitists made their money and left?

Apparently none of that is important to you. Just "brown" people. Kinda sad you are so bigoted.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Patrick C.'s Comment
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I guess I will finally bite. I agree the story shows us a very deplorable act. Unfortunately it is entirely not uncommon. The saddest aspect is those that are truly behind this deplorable situation will never see justice. The driver will get hammered. Those suffering in the trailer will in the end get sent back to where they came from to try again.

Many people have come into this country under deplorable situations. From the indentured youth from Europe thru the slaves from Africa followed by those smuggling themselves from south of the border. It is what it is. Many have suffered to end up in this vast and beautiful land.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Dan R.'s Comment
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Politics aside, if you're willing to climb into a reefer in the south in July with the reefer off to get away from a situation, that situation must be pretty f-ing bad and something should be done. Not necessarily crossing the border illegally, but perhaps actually fixing the problem.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Bud A.'s Comment
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My point is this, no one wants to comment, why? Because it's a bunch of brown people? Where the !@&$! Is your humanity?

Wait, you're from Illinois. Why aren't you talking about all the dead brown people in Chicago? Don't you care?

One day you may figure out that the people who stir up these feelings of outrage in you are not your friends. They want something else, whether it's money or votes or influence or something else. Meanwhile, it feels good to be superior, doesn't it? The question is, is it worth the stress and anger that goes along with it?

Having gone through that entire process, let me say that it's sad these people died, but I don't know any of them personally, so it doesn't affect me that much. These days I spend my energy on those who are closest to me.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Shiva's Comment
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Even a freshman on the high school debate team knows that once someone starts hurling insults and names, he admits defeat. He can no longer use logic to validate his argument or refute his opponent's and resorts to such tactics.

I stated these people took a calculated risk and gave informed consent to be transported. They chose after careful consideration. You imply they could not have foreseen this outcome, despite the fact that even more people died in a similar situation in 2003. By your implication you are insulting the intelligence of the very people for whom you claim to have compassion. Hence you are calling them idiots. You did the same on the other thread when you stated the drivers were taken advantage of due to ignorance.

So who's the bigot? Me who assumes they are intelligent and make their own decision or you who wants to characterize them as unsuspecting victims?

Our servicemen police and firemen accept these calculated risks to their health and safety for the betterment of our society. Unfortunately they do not receive the amount of respect they deserve. These people did it for the betterment of their own situation and family. Taking that into consideration, perhaps we should release all the drug dealers, bank robbers, embezzlers and any other criminal whose crimes were about financial gain. People are calling for the death penalty for the driver. But wasn't he too just tying to help his family?

As for my heart....it goes out to the 8 year old girls of Swaziland who get raped by their AIDS infected teachers in the classroom because of the belief sex with a virgin will cure the disease.

My heart goes out to the girls who are held down by their mothers and grandmothers while their genitals are mutilated without anesthesia.

It goes out to the women in some countries who get stoned or set afire as punishment for being raped.

Where were you after 9/11? I spent my time off helping police and firefighters comb through the rubble to find victims and evidence.Do you really think we stopped to look at color?

Where were you after Katrina? I took a leave of absence from work to rent a U Haul to shuttle supplies all over the devastated areas.

Where is your outrage for the Haiti earthquake survivors who STIlL don't have running water or housing because elitists made their money and left?

Apparently none of that is important to you. Just "brown" people. Kinda sad you are so bigoted.

You claim you aided all these people at all these catastrophes, I don't know if you did , but you left out hurricane Sandy victims. Aren't you fron NJ? Did you go to Haiti, Houston, Florida, Puerto Rico? I am sick and tired of all bigoted people as yourself and the current president. I have put up with all this vs for my entire life, and to finally realize as a born and raised American citizen that neither I normally my kids are welcome because of people like you makes me disgusted. I support colin Kaepernick his beliefs and stance, I support DACA recipients. Our ancestors were on this continent long before Europeans were. My Grandparents were immigrants to this country and became naturalized citizens, my mother is American born citizen, I am American born, my children are American born. When Europeans came here, they were seeking a better life, hope, fleeing religious persecution. Same goes for the immigrants that come today, whether legal or illegal. The people that come to this country, are not only looking for a better life, but a chance to survive. Many people say we'll just vote the people in power out. Doesn't work that way. Not when the people fleeing don't have money or power. I viewed your comments as insensitive, and bigoted. I viewed the silence from the moderators the same or just plain scared. For 2 months I avoided this website, because I was angry, hurt and just plain disgusted with everything going on in this country right now. But aside cliche as it sounds, I found a bible based church and am learning to pray for those in need, and volunteer for things and people I never have done before. I have met wonderful people, that gives me hope for humanity and this country.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Shiva's Comment
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My point is this, no one wants to comment, why? Because it's a bunch of brown people? Where the !@&$! Is your humanity?

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Wait, you're from Illinois. Why aren't you talking about all the dead brown people in Chicago? Don't you care?

One day you may figure out that the people who stir up these feelings of outrage in you are not your friends. They want something else, whether it's money or votes or influence or something else. Meanwhile, it feels good to be superior, doesn't it? The question is, is it worth the stress and anger that goes along with it?

Having gone through that entire process, let me say that it's sad these people died, but I don't know any of them personally, so it doesn't affect me that much. These days I spend my energy on those who are closest to me.

I respect that. Normally I don't comment on stuff like that myself. But with ghetto current political, anti immigrant climate today, it effects me deeply. Especially, when you have children and they get taunted at school that they will be deported because of their heritage appalling me they are 3rd generation Americans, and never should have to hear that from anyone because of theits kind color

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Shiva throws all the moderators under the bus:

I viewed your comments as insensitive, and bigoted. I viewed the silence from the moderators the same or just plain scared.

This is a trucking forum Shiva. It's not here to serve as a political or religious platform. I chose NOT to speak up and debate a person who obviously has no interest in hearing what anyone else has to say or to conduct an intelligent conversation about an obvious divide. You do not know me (or the other moderators) well enough to accuse me of bigotry or ambivalence. Your above statement is nothing more than a feckless attempt to stir up trouble.

Judge not, lest you be judged. Ask your Preacher the meaning of that.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Sno-boy's Comment
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Just saw this as it got bumped to the top of the page. What is to say ? The linked NBC article covers the story as it was released by authorities. If I had originally saw this subject I would not have commented anyway as it is not relevant to my CDL career. If I want to comment on hundreds of other issues from A to Z, I will find an appropriate forum relevant to that particular issue.

8 Suspected Migrants Found Dead In Trailer

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Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Daniel B.'s Comment
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Man, you lib's love overusing the word "bigoted".

Ps. This is a trucking forum.

Bill F.'s Comment
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double-quotes-start.png

Even a freshman on the high school debate team knows that once someone starts hurling insults and names, he admits defeat. He can no longer use logic to validate his argument or refute his opponent's and resorts to such tactics.

I stated these people took a calculated risk and gave informed consent to be transported. They chose after careful consideration. You imply they could not have foreseen this outcome, despite the fact that even more people died in a similar situation in 2003. By your implication you are insulting the intelligence of the very people for whom you claim to have compassion. Hence you are calling them idiots. You did the same on the other thread when you stated the drivers were taken advantage of due to ignorance.

So who's the bigot? Me who assumes they are intelligent and make their own decision or you who wants to characterize them as unsuspecting victims?

Our servicemen police and firemen accept these calculated risks to their health and safety for the betterment of our society. Unfortunately they do not receive the amount of respect they deserve. These people did it for the betterment of their own situation and family. Taking that into consideration, perhaps we should release all the drug dealers, bank robbers, embezzlers and any other criminal whose crimes were about financial gain. People are calling for the death penalty for the driver. But wasn't he too just tying to help his family?

As for my heart....it goes out to the 8 year old girls of Swaziland who get raped by their AIDS infected teachers in the classroom because of the belief sex with a virgin will cure the disease.

My heart goes out to the girls who are held down by their mothers and grandmothers while their genitals are mutilated without anesthesia.

It goes out to the women in some countries who get stoned or set afire as punishment for being raped.

Where were you after 9/11? I spent my time off helping police and firefighters comb through the rubble to find victims and evidence.Do you really think we stopped to look at color?

Where were you after Katrina? I took a leave of absence from work to rent a U Haul to shuttle supplies all over the devastated areas.

Where is your outrage for the Haiti earthquake survivors who STIlL don't have running water or housing because elitists made their money and left?

Apparently none of that is important to you. Just "brown" people. Kinda sad you are so bigoted.

double-quotes-end.png

You claim you aided all these people at all these catastrophes, I don't know if you did , but you left out hurricane Sandy victims. Aren't you fron NJ? Did you go to Haiti, Houston, Florida, Puerto Rico? I am sick and tired of all bigoted people as yourself and the current president. I have put up with all this vs for my entire life, and to finally realize as a born and raised American citizen that neither I normally my kids are welcome because of people like you makes me disgusted. I support colin Kaepernick his beliefs and stance, I support DACA recipients. Our ancestors were on this continent long before Europeans were. My Grandparents were immigrants to this country and became naturalized citizens, my mother is American born citizen, I am American born, my children are American born. When Europeans came here, they were seeking a better life, hope, fleeing religious persecution. Same goes for the immigrants that come today, whether legal or illegal. The people that come to this country, are not only looking for a better life, but a chance to survive. Many people say we'll just vote the people in power out. Doesn't work that way. Not when the people fleeing don't have money or power. I viewed your comments as insensitive, and bigoted. I viewed the silence from the moderators the same or just plain scared. For 2 months I avoided this website, because I was angry, hurt and just plain disgusted with everything going on in this country right now. But aside cliche as it sounds, I found a bible based church and am learning to pray for those in need, and volunteer for things and people I never have done before. I have met wonderful people, that gives me hope for humanity and this country.

Isn't there some laraza or antifa hate group you can join to get this bile out of your system? Instead of spewing it here.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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