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John M.'s Comment
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Can anyone give me their opinion(s) about this topic?? I have heard good and bad about it. Let me point out what I consider my biggest beef with it knowing the bit of understanding I have. Taking the mandatory 10 when I don't need or want to. Let me clarify. What if I am wide awake, less than an hour or even minutes (more than 7) from my drop and the 10 makes that impossible? I have more YAYS and NAYS but I want to start simple.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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The 10 hour break requirement is basic HOS law and cannot be differentiated between eLogs and paper Logs. I have done both and prefer electronic hands-down over paper.

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Adam B.'s Comment
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People who used to fudge paper logs hate elogs because it's harder to fudge them. That's generally the argument I see on this.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Errol V.'s Comment
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John, you still have some control about when to take your breaks. It's also figured into your dispatch. You made a hypothetical situation to prove your point.

However, I can't see in reality how you'd out of your 11 hours drive time and be all wide awake, 30 minutes away from your final destination. Between your loaded call and your arrival you will have time to stop at your favorite truck stop for those 10 hours before delivery.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Chris L.'s Comment
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I prefer paper logs even though I run no more than I would on electronic logs I use them to drive or sleep when I feel. You might say I'm cheating but really I'm driving when I'm rested and sleeping when I'm tired. I remember running elogs and having to stop at 2 in the afternoon and couldn't sleep, then have to start my new day at midnight when I'm so tired.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

John M.'s Comment
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@chrisL.........BAM!! That is my primary concern!!

Rainy D.'s Comment
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@chrisL.........BAM!! That is my primary concern!!

Not that big of a deal. I've only run elogs and I get to drive and sleep when I want for the most part. People have this wrong assumption that you HAVE to drive 550+ miles per day. Not true. You can run 300 decide to sleep then just start the next day earlier. I flip flop my sleep schedule all the time. Or..if you run hard in the beginning you are so exhausted it doesnt matter what time of day it is, rookies will sleep. I once.messaged dispatch "just got unloaded. I'm going to sleep like the dead and will.message tomorrow for a load. Don't even wake me if Christ returns... He will.understand my exhaustion. Lol

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

John M.'s Comment
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Huge relief to hear that elogs can be flexible.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Daniel B.'s Comment
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Huge relief to hear that elogs can be flexible.

If the load has time on it you can do what Rainy mentioned. I usually ran 3,200 miles per week on average so when I had my hours I had to drive otherwise I wouldn't make the appointment time.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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True every load is different with different variables. Most of the carriers have been on elogs for years and even new drivers do just fine.

John just seems unnecessarily concerned over something that involves time management and trip planning which is a learned skill.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

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