Logging While Being (Un)Loaded

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Old School's Comment
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What am I doing wrong, good, what should I change?

If you will take the time to read the article Be As Shrewd As Snakes And As Innocent As Doves I think you will see how logging yourself on "sleeper berth" while at shippers/receivers has definite advantages over logging yourself on "off duty." There is a lot of other information covered in there, but when you get near the last part of the post you will see the point about taking advantage of the split sleeper berth rule. Once you get comfortable with using the split sleeper berth rule you can become like a Master Jedi Trucker by taking advantage of those pesky old...

Logbook Rules (HOS)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Unholychaos's Comment
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What am I doing wrong, good, what should I change?

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Once you get comfortable with using the split sleeper berth rule you can become like a Master Jedi Trucker by taking advantage of those pesky old...

Unfortunately, Schneider does not allow split sleeper, so I can't take advantage of that, even though there have been times when that could have been helpful.

But I will definitely take a look at that article. Thanks OS!

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Unfortunately, Schneider does not allow split sleeper, so I can't take advantage of that, even though there have been times when that could have been helpful.

Man, that sounds crazy! I would sure like to hear from some other Schneider drivers concerning this. I have a feeling this is one of those things that would be overlooked if they knew they had a driver who understood how to make it work to his advantage. I could certainly be wrong here, but I have got a feeling there are some Schneider drivers who are taking advantage of this rule.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Unfortunately, Schneider does not allow split sleeper, so I can't take advantage of that, even though there have been times when that could have been helpful.

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Man, that sounds crazy! I would sure like to hear from some other Schneider drivers concerning this. I have a feeling this is one of those things that would be overlooked if they knew they had a driver who understood how to make it work to his advantage. I could certainly be wrong here, but I have got a feeling there are some Schneider drivers who are taking advantage of this rule.

Maybe Schneider does have a policy of "No Split Sleeper" with that 8 hour/2 hour mess. However that doesn't stop anyone from using "Sleeper Berth" to account for their off time.

(Just a minor hair split here.)

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
ChefsJK's Comment
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What they dont know wont hurt them. I did many of them just so I could get home on time.

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What am I doing wrong, good, what should I change?

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Once you get comfortable with using the split sleeper berth rule you can become like a Master Jedi Trucker by taking advantage of those pesky old...

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Unfortunately, Schneider does not allow split sleeper, so I can't take advantage of that, even though there have been times when that could have been helpful.

But I will definitely take a look at that article. Thanks OS!

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Pianoman's Comment
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At least you guys can still use the split over there if you want to lol. I tried doing a sleeper split at AFW and got a call from safety the next week about it--totally not allowed (even though I know I logged it correctly). I actually didn't even do a full split. I just logged 8 hrs in the sleeper while at a customer and then rolled out afterwards with the same clock I came in with, then took a full ten that night. Nope, not allowed... :(

They even sent a fleetwide message afterward making sure we all knew we weren't allowed to use it. Yeah, I was the reason for a fleetwide message--I feel important hahaha

BQ 's Comment
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Wow, I am dumbfounded that there are companies who prevent their drivers from utilizing the split. My assumption for this is the confusion it seems to pose for some drivers for some reason, tho it's truly not very complicated.

Patrick C.'s Comment
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I have a question for you Pianoman. The furniture that AFW uses does it come from American Furniture Manufacturing in Pontotoc, MS? I delivered a load out of there early this week. Half the shipment went to Darvin Whse in Mokena, IL and the other half to Peddlers Village Auction in Goshen, IN.

Pianoman's Comment
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I have a question for you Pianoman. The furniture that AFW uses does it come from American Furniture Manufacturing in Pontotoc, MS? I delivered a load out of there early this week. Half the shipment went to Darvin Whse in Mokena, IL and the other half to Peddlers Village Auction in Goshen, IN.

Part of it does. We just sell furniture; we don't manufacture it. But that is one of the places we get our furniture from. Actually you'll see alot of AFW trucks in that part of MS because several of our vendors are in and around Tupelo.

Tony's Comment
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I will say one thing. Never, under any circumstances, log off duty or sleeper while the truck is moving. I say this because if you are off duty backing into the door and you hit the truck next to you and cause 1k worth of damage one of the first things your safety dept will do is check your logs. If they see you were off duty at that minute, remember eld's log exact time, that's an automatic log falsification. They will ask why were you driving off duty? Just food for thought.

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