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Kevin L.'s Comment
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Ok so I filled out an application a couple weeks ago. I have been in touch with the recruiter ever since. Every step of the way it seemed like she was able to walk me through the process and advise me of any issues. When we had worked through them except getting a hold of one of the current companies I work for to verify I have been working for them for a few months in addition to my primary employer of almost 10 years whom they have already verified. She indicated they could use a copy of a paystub with ytd earnings on it to verify if they could not reach that employer. I was looking on their application portal the other day it indicated my application approval status was processing and today it changed to pending. Several hours later I checked my email only to find a form letter that was really vague but basically said they could not continue processing my application for one or more reasons from a number of different required things. It did not tell me what the problem was directly. Should I call the recruiter and press to get a specific answer? If it had to do with something I may have forgotten in my background check and not to do with the employment verification do I have a right to attain a copy of that background check? I know my PSP and DAC are clear as I pulled them myself in the past month.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

G-Town's Comment
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I recall reading that your license was suspended in NJ for failing to pay child support. You were required to pay $100 for a reinstatement fee of some sort. Did you take care of that? And what about sending them the additional financial information they requested?

Even so, the company still may have passed on you because of the suspension. Although it might be helpful to understand the "real" reason for not being accepted, I doubt they will tell you anything other than what the form letter stated. Which by the way, your description of the content of the letter was vague. What exactly did it say?

All that aside, continue to apply to other companies. As follows:

Company-Sponsored Training Programs

Apply For Company-Sponsored Training

Good luck!

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Kevin L.'s Comment
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Yes gtown took care of nj last week and recruiter said she ran the mvr again came back clear. Plus I also last week sent them the paystub so my employment could be verified without the employer responding as the recruiter suggested. When i get home and on my computer i will post exact wording of the letter. It was vague. Im going to call the recruiter and see if she can enlighten me more before i apply elsewhere. I did kind of expect a more personal response from a compamy that promotes itself as treating drivers like family. Who knows maybe me just asking will get me to their orientation. Im seeing it as if i approach it with a positive attitude to work out any wrinkles it might be part of their screening process.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Old School's Comment
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Kevin, I think it's doubtful you'll gain any insight from your recruiter. I got rejected from several companies when I first started trucking. Sometimes it just happens. Just keep moving forward and apply at some other companies. There's someone who will give you a shot at this.

G-Town's Comment
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Who knows maybe me just asking will get me to their orientation. Im seeing it as if i approach it with a positive attitude to work out any wrinkles it might be part of their screening process

Kevin although I respect the positive attitude, I seriously doubt they would play a game like that.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Getting started in trucking really is a numbers game. These huge carriers have gigantic piles of applications and they're sorting through them hoping to find the right match. But in all honesty, they're guessing most of the time. They admit it themselves. You never know if someone is going to work out until you give them a shot.

They do, however, screen people based on certain criteria hoping for better results and they often won't tell anyone what those criteria are. Some of them they'll tell you about, some of them they won't.

That's why we always tell people to get as many pre-hire letters as you can. Apply everywhere and see who will offer you an opportunity. Then decide who you're going to go to work for.

I've watched a ton of people waste so much time filtering through companies just to find out in the end that most of them aren't going to extend them an offer anyhow. I've also seen a lot of people focus hard on one company like you have only to find out eventually that you're not being given an offer.

The best thing to do is apply everywhere, see who gives you an offer, and go from there. That's why we offer the opportunity for people to apply to many paid CDL training programs at once. You speak with the various recruiters, see who gives you a shot, and go for it. You waste a lot less time that way.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Kevin L.'s Comment
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Ok so here is the exact words of the letter. I am only putting the important part here as after this it goes on and talks about how to dispute or get copies of things through the FCRA.

"Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately we are unable to continue to process your application based on either our company hiring guidelines, employment, references, obligations under the DOT regulations and or including information received from Hireright (DAC)services."

Based upon the above content I think anyone of us can say they are not being crystal clear on what the cause of this was. At least if you apply for a credit card and get denied they tell you why specifically and there you are treated as nothing more than a number. It is a shame though because I actually thought this would be an extremely good match. I did feel as if there were two time in this whole process that I was not comfortable with the way things were handled as they were handled in a way I have never seen in business before. Basically I am seeing this as if a company turns me down it was not God's will for me to work for or with them. On to the next one but I will call them and see if I can get more information from them.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Kevin, most carriers won't give you a specific reason because they're afraid of being sued for discriminatory hiring practices. If they simply say something generic like, "We've found a more qualified candidate" or "It's based upon one of several possible reasons" then there is no possibility of accidentally saying something that will get them in trouble.

I totally understand that it's hard not to take it personally, but try hard not to. It's not personal. They don't know you. Trust me, there are a ton of good matches out there for you. Apply everywhere, get conversations going with various recruiters, and go with the best opportunity that presents itself.

In fact, you should be the one looking at this process as a numbers game. If you put a pile of applications out there you'll get a small number of opportunities and you'll take the one you like best. I wouldn't waste another moment worrying about rejections. Focus on getting as many applications out there as you can and get your career underway.

Big Scott's Comment
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There is no harm in calling them. You still might not get an answer. In the mean time start the process again with the next company.

Kevin L.'s Comment
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Thank you all. I did call them a few hours ago and my recruiter was nit available. I spoke to another who told me the problem waa my lic is suspended. I told her it was not and my original recruiter ran a new mvr last week proving this. She said she would call me back. A while later my regular recruiter called me back and told me i was approved by the hiring committee. I scheduled orientation for feb.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

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