CDL Medical Card Question. Indiana Specific.

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Jason K.'s Comment
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Sorry if this topic has already been covered.

So in my valiant journey so far before I got too excited or involved I started looking at my CDL and medical card obtained in the State of Indiana. Due to the sleep apnea , I am only allowed a 1-year card, and I just realized that the medical card expired February 17th, 2017. I went to my license branch website and I was downgraded. Oops.

What is weird is that it shows "DISQUALIFIED" and my reinstatement date states "INDEFINITE". The state of Indiana equates that as equal to a suspension and says it may be due to a court order, but it also states I have no Suspensions or pending suspensions, etc. It shows I have a valid Operators license that is it. Indiana has me all confused.

Not too big a deal, I will get it sorted out.

My question is if anyone knows if whether I only have to redo the DOT Physical and present the new appropriate medical card for reinstatement or are they going to require me to retake all the tests and the skills/driving test?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

Rob's Comment
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Just did a quick Google search...

If the medical examiner's certificate has expired, you must obtain a new one and provide it to the Department. If the variance (waiver) has expired, you must renew it with FMCSA. Retesting may not be required unless you voluntarily downgrade your license or let your CDL license remain expired for more than six months.

So atleast in Missouri you may not need to retest if it's been under 6 months

That's for MO, I'll try to find something from Indiana. Source

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Rob's Comment
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For indiana....

If a driver’s CDL has been expired, disqualified, canceled, revoked, invalidated or voluntarily surrendered for more than one year, the holder must pass all knowledge and skills exams prior to issuance of the CDL license [140 IAC 7-3-17.5(d)].

So it's safe to say if you hurry and get a med card and take it personally to DMV/BMV , you shouldn't be required to retest. Source Roughly 3/4 down in FAQ

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Jason K.'s Comment
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That was my assumption since I technically have like 9 days. I have my DOT Physical scheduled at 4 pm today, so my next issue is that because I haven't used my CPAP it won't show compliance. I wonder if the doc will give me at least a 90-day card so I can begin using it tonight and by that time I can be reevaluated by the doc and get my 1 year. Not sure if the doctor will do that though.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Rob's Comment
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That was my assumption since I technically have like 9 days. I have my DOT Physical scheduled at 4 pm today, so my next issue is that because I haven't used my CPAP it won't show compliance. I wonder if the doc will give me at least a 90-day card so I can begin using it tonight and by that time I can be reevaluated by the doc and get my 1 year. Not sure if the doctor will do that though.

Hopefully it all works out for you. Let us know how it goes :)

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Jason K.'s Comment
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I will keep everyone updated, and maybe have some info to put up for anyone that has issues in the future. If all else fails I just redo the tests, also not a big deal, but just an extra pain in the butt.

By the way, I'm loving all this reading on this site Brett A., and G-Town. God, how I wish I would have found this 2 years ago when I started.

Jason K.'s Comment
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Update!!!

BMV says I have until the 14th to get my medical card in otherwise I have to redo everything. All tests including driving skills test. Thank goodness I decided to get a jump on this. Next obstacle is to see if the examiner will grant me a 90 day card, if not I’m screwed and will have to pay to go back through everything.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Jason K.'s Comment
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Sooo...Yep, I'm screwed, LOL. The doc won't do, at the very least a 90-day card, they will only do a pending determination until I can provide my CPAP report which the VA won't print for me until 2 months from now by appointment only. The BMV won't accept a pending determination to re-qualify me to keep my CDL.

On February 14th my CDL will be null and void and I will have to redo everything. My only option is to find a DOT examiner and not tell them I have Sleep Apnea , but that can come back to bite me pretty hard, and lying violates my character and values, just won't do that, I'm better than that. I know I don't have to go to school again, but I'm considering just a complete start over. Find a company that will sponsor me as long as I work for them for however long.

Over the next 90 days, I will have to wear my CPAP and get compliant, take my physical, and go back to get my CLP. Then go to school, again, do all my tests, and my skills test to get my CDL back.

I know it would be cheaper to just pay for the skills test and a rental truck, estimated at $325 total, and then the cost of the BMV stuff, maybe $100 if that, but to be honest I'd rather just go back to school anyway. 1 year has been a long time and I have forgotten a lot.

I'm going to just keep reading all the good materials here, do practice tests, etc.... Get back into things, get my CPAP compliant, and health in general.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Jason K.'s Comment
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UPDATE!!!!!

Good News!!!! I got my 90-day Med Cert. Yay!!!!! I can get my CDL out of Disqualified status tomorrow. Don't have to go back to school, just have to find a company that does a refresher course, or my school will let me refresh for 2 days for free, then I can just find a company that will put me through their company stuff. Man, I'm so happy!!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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Jason celebrates:

UPDATE!!!!!

Good News!!!! I got my 90-day Med Cert. Yay!!!!! I can get my CDL out of Disqualified status tomorrow. Don't have to go back to school, just have to find a company that does a refresher course, or my school will let me refresh for 2 days for free, then I can just find a company that will put me through their company stuff. Man, I'm so happy!!

Good for you. Congratulations!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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