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icecold24k's Comment
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So i didn't feel comfortable with that and the fact that you need to sign a release that basically states that in the first month of road training, the trainee, not being a hired employee yet, is on his own should something (accident) happen, and i came back home. Just call your recruiter and let her know they told me at the orientation office, nothing else required.

Wait... So you left orientation without getting this explained?

Paul A.'s Comment
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Sure, as i said, the lady herself there said it used to be only a year so things change over time, i don't doubt you don't have it in your contract, they might be catching up to something that was goig on and add it, I'm not trying to stir stuff against Prime or challange anybody, i read it, my roommate read it and my wife did too so it is there.

Wether we misunderstood it or not, i don't know, they don't give you much time to think about it but we all got the same basic impression on what it meant.

Paul A.'s Comment
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That was for Rainy.

Ice, yes what is there to explain? I'm not trying to be a wise guy here, honest question.

G-Town's Comment
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Splitter wrote:

To harp on this issue as a stumbling block to a new career only means that Paul has to look at other companies that offer paid training. Good luck with whatever decision you make. I love being a Prime-ate. I was supported throughout my process & still am. All the clauses in my contract be damned. I’m here to succeed, not find excuses.

Splitter that's great you are happy with Prime. That said, we strongly recommend a student fully understands any contract before signing. No one is harping, but seeking additional clarity, especially with something like a non-compete (if one actually exists).

Considering the very high failure rate in the first three months it is in everyone's best interest to understand what they are signing.

Although I respect your commitment to Prime, the advice of "throwing all caution to the wind" in reference to a contract isn't smart.

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Operating While Intoxicated

icecold24k's Comment
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That was for Rainy.

Ice, yes what is there to explain? I'm not trying to be a wise guy here, honest question.

Idk just thinking maybe someone there could of explained exactly what it meant,

Splitter's Comment
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Splitter wrote:

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To harp on this issue as a stumbling block to a new career only means that Paul has to look at other companies that offer paid training. Good luck with whatever decision you make. I love being a Prime-ate. I was supported throughout my process & still am. All the clauses in my contract be damned. I’m here to succeed, not find excuses.

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Splitter that's great you are happy with Prime. That said, we strongly recommend a student fully understands any contract before signing. No one is harping, but seeking additional clarity, especially with something like a non-compete (if one actually exists).

Considering the very high failure rate in the first three months it is in everyone's best interest to understand what they are signing.

Although I respect your commitment to Prime, the advice of "throwing all caution to the wind" in reference to a contract isn't smart.

Respectfully, it’s not about throwing caution to the wind. For me, it’s about priority. I’m not going to get into a back & forth. I know about non competes & non disclosures. I wanted to succeed. My priority was to make every effort to not give anyone, not just Prime, the ability to come after me for any reason whatsoever. I know of a board member that just gave notice & is going to work for OD. They didn’t threaten him with legalese. They wished him well & said if it didn’t work out, they’d welcome him back with open arms.

I now understand that he’s no longer at Prime. If I had understood that sooner, I wouldn’t have commented. It’s all moot at this point. He has his priorities & I have mine.

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Rainy D.'s Comment
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Or if u took a picture we could see the actual wording, not your transaltion.

i not only questioned my contract, but demanded a copy and re read it all night to make sure i completely understood before i signed.

I have asked several newer PSDs and not one has confirmed this. but as i said, i will go to sprimo soon and get a copy.

i dont see this as stirring up, but i want real clarification.

The way you are wording this makes it sound like you are never permitted to ever work at another company ever because there is no longer a year clause. so if i understand you correctly, i could work at prime five years and not go somewhere due to the non compete?

the year work off the loan issue is to pay back the loan. i will get real answers and post the results.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Rainy D.'s Comment
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I just re read your comment and you said you asked not Stan Kasterke the head of PSD , not Brooke the driver liaison, not steve larsen or linda brown in the training office. not even the guys in the office who do the interview review....you asked the computer room lady who does not deal with the contracts or any aspect of training besides the computer video training. im guessing this is a matter of not going to the correct person for clarification.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
G-Town's Comment
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Splitter wrote:

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To harp on this issue as a stumbling block to a new career only means that Paul has to look at other companies that offer paid training. Good luck with whatever decision you make. I love being a Prime-ate. I was supported throughout my process & still am. All the clauses in my contract be damned. I’m here to succeed, not find excuses.

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Splitter that's great you are happy with Prime. That said, we strongly recommend a student fully understands any contract before signing. No one is harping, but seeking additional clarity, especially with something like a non-compete (if one actually exists).

Considering the very high failure rate in the first three months it is in everyone's best interest to understand what they are signing.

Although I respect your commitment to Prime, the advice of "throwing all caution to the wind" in reference to a contract isn't smart.

double-quotes-end.png

Respectfully, it’s not about throwing caution to the wind. For me, it’s about priority. I’m not going to get into a back & forth. I know about non competes & non disclosures. I wanted to succeed. My priority was to make every effort to not give anyone, not just Prime, the ability to come after me for any reason whatsoever. I know of a board member that just gave notice & is going to work for OD. They didn’t threaten him with legalese. They wished him well & said if it didn’t work out, they’d welcome him back with open arms.

I now understand that he’s no longer at Prime. If I had understood that sooner, I wouldn’t have commented. It’s all moot at this point. He has his priorities & I have mine.

You said: "all the clauses in your contract be damned". Your "words" friend. Might work for you, that's great. I get that, but it's not good advice if taken at face value. You can't just ignore the contract.

Again; no one should sign a contract they do not understand; including you, me and the OP.

Not going to back down Splitter. We see way too many people come through here with huge regrets they signed something they had no clue about and end up financially obligated to pay off their debt.

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Operating While Intoxicated

Paul A.'s Comment
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I'm not there, i left last week.

IMVHO you could ask clarifications to whomever you want, when and if it comes down to a legal battle (unlikely i admit) what matters is what's on the contract in writing.

If you can ask a student to look at theyr PSD Forms on a computer, it should be the last on the bottom, I'll be glad to know what you think, as i said berore i might have overreacted.

GTown said: We see way too many people come through here with huge regrets they signed something they had no clue about and end up financially obligated to pay off their debt.

Exactely, if i don't mistake a few weeks ago someone was complaining about the deal he had with Roehl i believe, it was pointed out to him that HE was the one who sign the contract so he really had no room for complaining if he didn't read it.

As far as Splitter comments, i respect your point of view. Me? I'm not trying to prove anything or impress anyone, everyone has a different situation in life, there's no one single answer for all.

Again, thank you for your help, everyone has a different point of view and that helps a newbie form his/her own opinion.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
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