Roehl Or Prime???

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Turtle's Comment
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Hi all, I'm new to the Forum. Wanting to ask this same question as the OP, but I am inquiring based on the salary that they give you during your training.

Even though I want to train, I have to still support myself fully with whatever they are paying me. So if anyone can advise who pays more from day 1 during this training.

I heard that Prime only lends you $200 per week until you get your CDL. Is this offer better than what Roehl has?

Thanks.

Welcome to the forum David. I can only speak to Prime's training pay structure. I'm not familiar with any others.

The first week of orientation is unpaid. After that first week you'll have your permit, at which time you'll begin PSD training with a trainer. That's the portion where you can take $200 advances each week, to be paid back in $25 weekly increments after hire.

The PSD phase usually lasts 2-3 weeks. By law, you must have your permit for at least 14 days before taking the cdl exam. Thats why it takes 2-3 weeks. With a good trainer and good timing you can hopefully test out on your 14th day of PSD, as I was able to.

After PSD, you'll begin the TNT phase of training, which consists of at least 30k miles (total truck miles, you+trainer). During TNT, you'll get either $700 per week gross, or .14 cents per mile, whichever is greater. So if you & your trainer have a 6000 mile week, which is not uncommon, you could gross $840 for the week. Likewise if you have a crappy 3000 mile week, you're still guaranteed that $700 minimum. Remember that during this phase you'll be paying back any advances you took, if any, during the PSD phase.

TNT is the wildcard as far as time goes. Best case scenario is you'll be done in 5 weeks. But more likely you'll be done in 7-8 weeks. I was 7 weeks to the day.

From what I understand, Prime has the highest pay for training, but also has a longer training period before you go solo. After solo, Prime typically pays better per mile, but we have slower trucks. Don't let the slow trucks concern you though. I'm governed at 62, but still get a ton of miles and make a nice fat paycheck each week.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Turtle

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Bob D.'s Comment
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Not sure how to use the quote system here but I wanted to point out this mention of not making money when your at home. This is something I don't get yet. I'm also a newb. How does an over the road out for months at a time benefit more than say a regional driver home for his 34? What I mean is don't over the road drivers do. 34hr reset? When I was in CDL school just about 9 months ago the teachers and recruiters would all say there's more money in over the road. Im flatbedding and that's all my experience so maybe that's why I can't get my head around ovr making more money.

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Who'd you end up going with Cortaro?

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Don't go with a specific company just because someone else went with them. His needs are different than yours.

The real difference between the two is hometime and pay. Roehl has the best hometime policy in the industry for OTR companies, Prime has the typical policy of 1 day off per week. But remember you're not earning money at home.

Want to be home more? Roehl.

Want to make more? Prime

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

LDRSHIP's Comment
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The reason there is more money in OTR is simple. The company doesn't have to keep you closer to home. So you can get longer runs.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Susan D. 's Comment
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That, and being over the road doesn't necessarily mean you'll do a 34 he reset.. you might be running on recaps, which is what I'll most likely be doing the next couple of weeks.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Turtle's Comment
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Generally, and OTR driver will earn more than a regional/local driver because they sacrifice a normal life for a life over the road. But that's not always the case. Some linehaul drivers make a killing and are home each weekend.

The comment about making more money was in reference to home time, I believe. As in the driver with more home time will make less then the other driver simply because he's home more often and not turning miles.

As for 34s and OTR drivers, that's kind of a case-by-case thing, depending on the driver and/or the circumstances. I tend to turn a lot of miles in a short period of time, necessitating a 34 once a week or so simply because I run myself right out of hours or sometimes because my dispatcher knows I have some long runs coming up and he'll build in a 34 on a run for me over a weekend. Personally I like the day off, it gives me a chance to recharge and sightsee a bit or just relax.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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