Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
Double Clutching:
In my time I've driven a standard, automatic and motorcycle, but a truck is a whole new world, and certainly more complicated. While the concept of "clutch, neutral, clutch, gear" Sounds easy enough, it's an over simplification of a much more exact process of matching engine speed to gears with RPM's dictating a smooth shift, especially with different rpm shift points for 1-5 and 6-10. We practice road on weekends and the last four weeks have been a real "grind", pun intended.
This last weekend, after watching another youtube video of a driver effortlessly shifting gears, I took the bull by the horns and went back to my instructor wondering why my shifting seemed to lack "finesse". He basically told me the same thing he did the first time out, only for some reason this week I understood it. My RPM's were right but I was trying to force the gear shift instead of feel for the gear. "fast with the feet, slow with the hand" he's say.
Suddenly I understood, and my gear jammin' ways were greatly reduced, particularly my downshifts. Better shifting also meant a greater ability to focus on my situational awareness, signs, and road conditions. We'll see what next week brings...
Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
Nice posts so far, lots of information.
Something I always tell people that have trouble remembering what way to turn the wheel when backing is, if you want the trailer more in your drivers side mirror then turn the wheel away from it. And vice versa. Good luck and keep up the hard work, it will pay off in spades after.
Thanks for the message. The backing is definitely getting better. Building a little bit of muscle memory now, so it's not so much as which way to turn it as much as how much, which is coming along as well.
Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
CDL School- Yard Work!
At school, you don’t move up in maneuvers until you master a few at a time. First, you spend time working on pre-trip, the airbrake /4 point brake test, and straight backing. No one’s going to push you there to learn, it’s up to you. Since this is on my dime, I’m there whenever I can be usually 4-5 days a week. You set your own schedule during their open hours.
Within the first week, I had my airbrake, in cab and pretrip memorized. I didn’t realize straight back would be difficult! I remebered a tip by a TT forum member, "turn towards the danger" and practiced making small adjustments instead of big ones. After a day of letting sink into my head, it finally clicked.
Parallels drove me crazy for three or four days, until I began improving my ability to follow the trailer better. This week I'm working on my offsets- Thinking of them simply as a combination of parallels and straight backs helped, but a pull up every now and then is still required.
Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
Deciding on CDL School- What to do?
I could save a bunch of cash and sign on for a year with a big carrier, but I’d have to drop everything and go or, I could go the private route, use my money and go slower and meet my obligations for work.
Trouble was, there are very few options in RI for private schools. Basically some smaller schools running around 5K or the 800b gorilla in the region that wanted 10K.
Remembering a forum members post (Old School- I think, paraphrasing) The purpose of the school was simply to acquire the license. I called and checked out the smaller school. Some of it’s grads had gone on to big carriers that hire recent grads, and the didn’t have any bad online reviews. I decided I’d go with them. To maximize my in-truck time at school I decided that before plunking down my cash, I’d get my permit right before starting.
The Permit Tests:
Here’s where Trucking Truth comes in heavy: I’d downloaded the RI CDL manual, and read it through, start to finish- twice!
I was testing on Brett’s excellent online training, and ran through that twice as well- I have to say, there's nothing on the internet this comprehensive and as well though out.
Feeling good I, arrived at the registry and decide to get as much done as I could. I tested for General, Airbrakes, Combinations, Doubles and Triples, and Tankers. My test time allotted was something like four hours. The general knowledge tests were a bit unlike the Trucking Truth questions, and phrased in a way that it seemed multiple answers were correct, so it was a little tougher. Still, in an hour i had completed all the tests, with 6 wrong answers. The DMV clerk was surprised to see me back so soon to wrap up and pick up the permit- Thanks Brett!
Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
I’ve been following posts on this site for some time, having discovered while researching the possibility of becoming a driver.
Maybe I’m like you or maybe not- middle aged, climbing the hill or in my case over it, ha!
After weighing all the pros and cons, i decided to move ahead, but with a long range plan. being self employed with jobs booked a year into the future, I’d have to take it slow and make a gradual switch.
Right now I’m attending a private school to get my CDL in Rhode Island. Before we get to that, hewre's a little backstory on getting there…
1. Do I want to be a driver?
Trucking Truth Forum members were a big help in my plan to move forward, with insights on the money, responsibilities and difficulties I’d be faced with on taking up a driving job. I didn’t doubt my abilities to do the memorizing and learning the technical end of the CDL manual- I’ve tinkered with cars all my life and identifying suspension parts, etc. would come with studying. The question was, could I spend 8-10 hrs behind the wheel of a vehicle daily without going crazy or dying of boredom or killing someone else? Also I work for myself- I’d want some more verifiable work experience on my resume to show potential employers.
I decided to take a winter driving job for a company that drives shuttles to move copeople around the city. It was a graveyard shift 8-4am. I upgraded my license, and picked up the endorsement necessary to get the job.
Just like trucking, employment required drug tests, smith system training, and a DOT physical for a medical card. No problem with these, so next up came the driving part...
Driving for a company:
I didn’t mind the driving, which was pretty low stress except for a few caveats:
It’s not your personal vehicle. You’re tracked by GPS for speed, location, etc. Being a good safe driver is the drill, and like ti's been noted here before it's all about liability. Don't hit anyone or anything. You in a big, slow moving vehicle- be prepared to be cut off by cabbies, other drivers, and have pedestrians walk out in the street crosswalks or not, and expect you to stop. I frequently drive through college campus areas, and students don’t appear to have any peripheral vision. They think they’re indestructible, while the stare at their phone unaware of surroundings. As for the night shift? Well, as my pappy used to say, nothing good happens after midnight. In the city, that’s an understatement. After a few months, I had not killed anyone, passengers, myself or other drivers on my 8-9hr. shifts. I had my medical card in hand- it was time to decide on the school route…
Posted: 8 years, 5 months ago
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CDL Schooling- Private vs Public?
Thanks for the great feedback everyone- it's appreciated!
Posted: 8 years, 5 months ago
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CDL Schooling- Private vs Public?
I chose a private school for similar reasons to Steve L. I also preferred private because I was able to visit before hand and get a feel for what it would be like. That helped calm my jitters. Getting on a bus for 24 hours and then going to school in new state with no familiar surroundings sounded just a little too scary personally. The school I chose to attend also had good class size and does not charge extra if you go past 160 hours of instruction unless you fail three times and even then its a modest fee. Some students have been here 7+ weeks until they were fully ready to test out and they didn't pay any more than the original tuition. Company programs won't be that generous. (neither will most private schools so do your research). Finally I really wanted to learn the generic way to drive, not a specific companies methods. I figured this would make me a better driver candidate.
Since you already know about the High Road Training Program you shouldn't need to worry about the book material. So if you feel confident in your driving ability, and you expect to eventually drive for a company with a company school then it would sound like a company school is a good fit. But if you like a slower pace or just want to hedge your hiring bets a little more then private schools have a lot to offer as well. Just vet them carefully.
Also as a curiosity, what kind of events (corporate, concert, theater, catering?). For the past year I worked as a repair and lighting tech for a corporate event company.
Hi Brian,
Photography/Videography business. Lots and lots of wedding shooting...
Posted: 8 years, 5 months ago
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CDL Schooling- Private vs Public?
I’ve been following this website/forum for quite a while. Self employed for 25+ years in the event industry, I’m looking for a job switch as I push 50. I started researching trucking job pros and cons and came across this site.
Of all the sites I’ve visited , this one is certainly the best- The study materials are very well done, and the participation by professional drivers in the forum is impressive. It’s great to see such excellent help from drivers taking time to offer advice after driving all day.
I’ve been studying the High Road materials online, but can’t make a job move until the end of the year due to business obligations.
Still, I have question regarding schooling, which I'm sure has been asked many times-
I’ve contemplated a local CDL school or company training. Local schools where I am offer only a few options, and if I get my CDL license privately, I’ll still need a year of OTR to be considered by most trucking companies for hire, no?
I know I’ve read versions of this question before, but for those that have gone the private school route, is it worth plunking down 5K+ for a CDL if I’m going to sign on with a company that offers company training, like a Prime etc?
thanks!
Posted: 8 years ago
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Getting a CDL-The Private School Route
A long and winding road?