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Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Prime Inc. CDL training. Springfield, Missouri

I am set to go in 1/16. I disclosed a breaking and entering deffefed conviction from 2001. Am I ok

Good luck Turtle.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

So since I admitted up front do you think I am OK?

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In orientation the head of security will come to class and say "if there is anything in your past we will find it. So come see me now if you think there could be an issue. It will help not hurt you".

They seem to be more concerned about lying, sneakiness, and trust than stupid mistakes we made when young. But deny something expecting it to not show up and you will get sent home. I've seen it.

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No offense Rainy, but I've seen you post something similar to this many times. This isn't really the truth. I know someone who heard the head of security say what you say he says, and go tell him about an expungement, as you don't want him to find it. That person was told to go home, and they were on their own to do so. Many ppl think an expungement as the state says it is, as that offense being erased. So they arent trying to be sneaky, but Prime will tell them to leave. That is the truth.

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I'm not offended. I think they take things on a case by case basis. One guy was asked about a DUI and he flipped out saying he paid $1500 to get it expunged, threw a chair across the room and yelled. He got sent home. Another guy was asked about a DUI like 7 years ago and they kept him. Did the guy forget the DUI or did the paper ask for the last five years? Idk. I never had any tickets accidents or convictions so I wasn't paying attention to time frames.

But you did just admitted that we were told to disclose to the head of security. They make the judgment. I can only state what we were told and what in have seen. I have seen some guys with expungement stay and some leave. Does the charge and the length of time since make a difference? I'm sure it does. Does the persons reaction make a difference? Probably.

I saw more people sent home for omitting information than admitting to it. And honestly some of the stuff people admitted to kinda scared me lol

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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What's everyone's thoughts on starting with prime?

I am in the same boat. I am just disclosing everything

Thanks for the info Adam, that's what I'm doing. Will get you guys informed.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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What does Prime check before approving you for orientation?

Also I was referred by a lease operator.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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What does Prime check before approving you for orientation?

I decided to disclose everything that has ever occurred since the last event happened over 15 years ago. My recruiter said it should not be a problem. I hope he's is right. My orientation is scheduled 1/16/17. Since. I disclosed I should be okay I hope?

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

So I disclosed everything to the recruiter on the app. He says should not be a problem. Because everything is more than 15 years ago

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In orientation the head of security will come to class and say "if there is anything in your past we will find it. So come see me now if you think there could be an issue. It will help not hurt you".

They seem to be more concerned about lying, sneakiness, and trust than stupid mistakes we made when young. But deny something expecting it to not show up and you will get sent home. I've seen it.

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No offense Rainy, but I've seen you post something similar to this many times. This isn't really the truth. I know someone who heard the head of security say what you say he says, and go tell him about an expungement, as you don't want him to find it. That person was told to go home, and they were on their own to do so. Many ppl think an expungement as the state says it is, as that offense being erased. So they arent trying to be sneaky, but Prime will tell them to leave. That is the truth.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

Scenario #2: Non-convictions over seven years The consumer has a non-conviction that is over seven years from the disposition date. Under the FCRA, the record cannot be included on the background report.

I think that is the best approach. If they want to know more about it they can ask you. Chances are, due to the age of the offense, you may never hear another thing about it.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

So I will disclose to my recruiter

I just wanted to clarify. I don't want to be sent home from orientation at Prime. I will amend my application. I already got the invite.

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Brian, forgive my confusion here but I wanted to try and clear this up for you. It seems to me you are asking about two different things, and like I said I could be confused on what it is you are wanting to know.

In the title line of your post you mentioned deferred prosecution, but I am assuming you are referring to what is usually called deferred adjudication, which doesn't result in a conviction, provided you meet all the requirements of the probationary period. What people forget about is that there is also a record of the arrest for the initial charge, and that record does not go away. So even if you were never convicted, and you served out your probationary period satisfactorily, a person who knows how to do a decent background check can find out about it due to the arrest record.

But then in your actual post you refer to something being dismissed, and your misconception that it cannot be used in hiring decisions. As a former employer I can assure you that we will, and can, use just about anything we want in a hiring decision. But you may not be fully aware of what all we used in that decision making process. I cannot stress to you how many orientations that I have been to where people get sent home due to the fact that they had something expunged from their records and they mistakenly thought that the trucking company either wouldn't be able to discover it, or wouldn't be able to use it in their decision making process. When it comes to background checks, an employer can find out just about anything they want. It all depends on how much money one is willing to spend on it, and I can assure you that they will be very thorough in their search.

What I want to stress to you is that if there are some questionable skeletons in your closet that could possibly come up and bite you in the back side, then you definitely should be up front and tell about them on any applications where they are asking for background issues. The best way to deal with these things, whether you were convicted or not, is to show that you are willing to face up to them and can provide a reasonable explanation for what happened. Do not count on it not being discovered in the background search. More than likely it will be, and as far as most of these trucking companies are concerned they consider your not disclosing it to be a greater offense than your actual committal of any criminal activity.

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Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

I just wanted to clarify. I don't want to be sent home from orientation at Prime. I will amend my application. I already got the invite.

Brian, forgive my confusion here but I wanted to try and clear this up for you. It seems to me you are asking about two different things, and like I said I could be confused on what it is you are wanting to know.

In the title line of your post you mentioned deferred prosecution, but I am assuming you are referring to what is usually called deferred adjudication, which doesn't result in a conviction, provided you meet all the requirements of the probationary period. What people forget about is that there is also a record of the arrest for the initial charge, and that record does not go away. So even if you were never convicted, and you served out your probationary period satisfactorily, a person who knows how to do a decent background check can find out about it due to the arrest record.

But then in your actual post you refer to something being dismissed, and your misconception that it cannot be used in hiring decisions. As a former employer I can assure you that we will, and can, use just about anything we want in a hiring decision. But you may not be fully aware of what all we used in that decision making process. I cannot stress to you how many orientations that I have been to where people get sent home due to the fact that they had something expunged from their records and they mistakenly thought that the trucking company either wouldn't be able to discover it, or wouldn't be able to use it in their decision making process. When it comes to background checks, an employer can find out just about anything they want. It all depends on how much money one is willing to spend on it, and I can assure you that they will be very thorough in their search.

What I want to stress to you is that if there are some questionable skeletons in your closet that could possibly come up and bite you in the back side, then you definitely should be up front and tell about them on any applications where they are asking for background issues. The best way to deal with these things, whether you were convicted or not, is to show that you are willing to face up to them and can provide a reasonable explanation for what happened. Do not count on it not being discovered in the background search. More than likely it will be, and as far as most of these trucking companies are concerned they consider your not disclosing it to be a greater offense than your actual committal of any criminal activity.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

Breaking and entering.

I was able to get my California Real Estate Licence which is live Scan with FBI and do finger prints. They did not show?

Deferred prosecution for WHAT?

A lot of "hiring decisions laws" very from state to state.

If we're talking a DUI - we're talking the TRUCKING INDUSTRY and FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

So what ARE we talking about?

If you were arrested for something, and fingerprinted - it IS GOING TO SHOW on a BG check - because your prints went up to NCIC.

I had a felony that was withheld, dismissed and sealed - back in '91. It STILL SHOWS on some BG checks. Border Patrol wanted to see the paperwork for it, when I tried to get my F.A.S.T. card this year. Nevermind that I hold a TWCI, HazMat, CWP, have since had various FFL's, etc.

Please be a little more specific, and we can make some more enlightened suggestions.

Rick

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Question of deferred prosecution more than 10 years old

I understand the law says that if it was dismissed it cannot be used for hiring decisions.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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What does Prime check before approving you for orientation?

I know they use hire right for the initial screening. What company do they use for the background check one at orientation?

MVR, Criminal, Employment, Addresses, Nothing?

I've heard some say they only check employment and some say they also check your MVR?

**This is in reference to incoming students, not experienced drivers.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Got My Invite To Prime

I gave the ok to check everything. How long will it take to get my invite

1st week is coming to a end. I passed everything and received my badge. Now on to the fun part actually getting behind the wheel.

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Prime Orientation Tentative 1/16/17

Everything? What can I expect?

Posted:  2 years, 9 months ago

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Prime Orientation Tentative 1/16/17

Can Anyone help me out?

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