Comments By Chief Brody

I mostly listen to podcasts, but if you are interested in finding some classic literature, I would recommend the Literature and History Podcast by Doug Metzger.

The podcast essentially summarizes the most significant literature throughout history in chronological order. Right now he is covering Saint Augustine.

I think the most important thing in situations like this is maintaining your composure. Despite the frustrations of others around you, in my experience, they will eventually realize your predicament and understand that it benefits everyone if you're able to extract yourself from the predicament.

I got stuck in an intersection in Brooklyn one time for about 10 to 15 minutes. I had trip planned and took the path I intended, but the problem with New York City is that people park on the corners. I was unable to make a right turn, and had to end up backing up, blind side, back on the street I had turn from. Some people helped me back up. Other people were yelling at me that I needed to move my truck. My response was very calmly say "I'm working on it." I was able to get out without hitting anything and, in my assessment, that was a win.

In situations like this, whoever has the right of way and the reason why you end up in the predicament becomes irrelevant. The most important thing, for everyone is for you to extract yourself from the predicament without hitting something.

We have a colorful contributor to The Forum named Todd.

Your post is very similar to something that Todd would post.

Have ever lived in Idaho or Lawton, Oklahoma?

"Deep East Texas"

Round Rock?

Chris,

Glad to hear that you are back in the saddle again.

As far as running down my clock, I regularly go below 30 minutes and often go as low as 2 or 3 minutes.

As far as waiting at a receiver, recently I had to wait 30 hours.

Canada has wonderful roads!

Bruce and Ryan,

Thanks for posting on this thread. I hope more drivers follow your lead and share their experiences from their travels, even if its in another country.

Bruce,

What cruise line and which ports?

Any interesting excursions, shows, or activities?

Below are pictures of a marbled grouper from a Caribbean cruise my brother and I took in 2013.

I may be little redundant as to what Ryan said, but here's my further comment.

First, the scenario posted above involves a traffic delay, which the regulation on adverse driving conditions specifically includes. See the link below. Thus, using PC when the FMCSA specifically addressed traffic delays under the adverse driving conditions is just plain wrong. When you have either unexpected weather or traffic that delay you, you MUST you the adverse driving condition exception.

Second, you have to remember the personal aspect of personal conveyance, which is why the FMCSA did not address unexpected weather or traffic delays under PC. PC is for the driver's personal reasons and is an off-duty status. I want to go to a restaurant. I made it to the rest area within my drive hours, but I want to go to a truck stop for a shower. I want to go to Walmart for shopping. None of these have any business purpose to my company. The adverse driving condition exception involves a circumstance where the FMCSA allows driving beyond the 11/14 hour clocks for the company's business purpose. The example above involves driving for the company's business purpose; it does not involve personal reasons for the driver.

An interesting aspect of adverse conditions, is the time and distance aspect in relation to the unexpected traffic or weather delay. This is different than PC where you are supposed to drive to the closest place to get rest if you get stuck at a shipper or receiver after you run out of hours. IN the FMCSA's example in the link below the drivers stops in the middle of the day to wait one hour for the road conditions to clear, and then drives 5 hours after that. AND, according the the example, the driver was not sitting in traffic for an hour. He was off-duty at a rest area for an hour.

So, logistically, how do you use adverse driving conditions exemption. Contrary to the example in the OP's post, you don't use PC. You just keep on driving while you're Qualcomm tells you have have violated the HOS, and then make an annotation to that drive time of an unexpected weather or traffic delay.

FMCSA Adverse Driving Conditions