Comments By Moose Holland

Keep a few cans of the wasp/hornet spray nearby. That stuff can shoot out to 20 feet and acts like mace when sprayed in someones face. And if someone asks why you have it, just say bees and stuff sometimes build nests in open trailers.. Forget trying to get exotic and over think something.

I've thought over the possible use of "chemical weapons". Inside a tight cab, there is the risk of breathing in or getting exposed to the chemicals yourself. Is spraying bee spray inside a cab a good idea? It certainly is weildier and handier than even a chainsaw. Will I get injured by bee spray if I shoot a perp inside the cab with it? It's going to create a nasty chemical mess inside the truck that will have to be decontaminated too. Again, Dan, you might be onto something. Of course if I'm defending my own life and limb inside the truck, I'm not going to worry about what damage the company property will sustain anyway. I certainly don't want to occupy or drive a truck until the insect poison is thoroughly cleaned up. There will be residing annoying and toxic bee spray fumes until that stuff is thoroughly cleaned off everything. Is mace or pepper spray just even a better idea than either a saw or bee spray? Can mace or pepper spray be carried on military bases?

Why do I ask? The gun thread below got me to a thinkin'. Well, since many carriers seem to like to ban firearms I figure some kind of portable power tool running off a rechargeable lithium battery might make a fairly decent means to ward off a possible attack while you reside in your sleeper. A power tool could do a lot of damage to the face, arms, fingers and hands of an attacker fast. I have cordless chainsaws in mind. I think it more highly menacing and damaging than even a cordless drill with a long bit. One could use a CO2 fire extinguisher for defense but it will deprive the tight space of a cab of oxygen so you might pass out and die. Any person here keep any kind of cordless electric power tool for personal security inside the cab? An 18" battery chainsaw might seem hard to beat as a power tool used as a personal defense weapon inside the tight confines of a cab. The tactical advantage in such a tight space is the would-be attacker can go out only one way: the way he came in if you confront him with a menacing power tool. He can't easily circle around you or get behind you.

A chainsaw with a 18" bar will quickly reach out and cut off fingers and hands of perpetrators unlike a non-powered tool as a tire iron. You know what the power saw does already to big wooden logs. It will take the bad guy's head off fast too. Since it is battery-powered, it will start quickly and reliably and run cleanly unlike a gas saw which would be unsafe in cab due to toxic/flammable fuels and fumes. Most likely the mere sight of a chainsaw buzzing will send a bad guy vamoosing in a flash.

Well, Moose doesn't drink, sir. So, he would never have such an issue in CDL school. Now if the trainer I would have to bunk with stinks of BO, that is a whole nother horse of another color. Bunking with 60 snoring/farting men in basic training in one open bay was a bummer but the drill sergeants never put up with funkiness. At least one smelly troop I know got threatened to have a wire brush used on his nether regions by the guy in the smokey the bear hat.

Who in Creation is "Todd"? Was this "Todd" character somebody you have known to be pro-American? Meaning pro-2nd A. Todd comes from a Celtic word meaning male fox. Anyway, whomever you think I am, we all can politely disagree if we all don't agree. I'm not going to twist anybody's arm here to agree with me. I will now lay off this Gun thread for good. I live in an army barracks, not a basement. Good day.

I understand the safety purposes of keeping the gun locked away, ammo separate etc. But it makes it rather useless for when you actually need it. If someone with ill intentions smashes the window while you're asleep in the bunk are you really going to have time before they attack you to gather it up or would you take them hands on or with another object next to you.

"Moose" let's just focus on getting started in this career before you try to fix what you perceive to be problems.

Well, while parked at a truck stop, the gun would be out and loaded as I sleep.

Nowhere in this letter did you consider the customers rights to not have firearms on their properties. YES, i was asked at a customer to open my under bunk door and they searched it. Most have signs stating "all vehicles and customers may be searched and weapons prohibited " And yes, Prime did once claim they were going to search the truck for alcohol, they didn't, but it is their truck and they can. Yes we did have an incident where a student brought a gun into a trainer's truck and the student pulled the weapon on the trainer after a heated argument. As a trainer I do not want students to have weapons.

As far as vehicles being searched... DOT in some states will search more than others. Get pulled into a weigh station in NJ and found with a gun... you are going to prison for 4+ years just for having it... even if it is locked away, and even if you have a permit for your state . Many of the liberal states do not have reciprocity laws. So just carrying will slam you in jail.

Part of the genius of our constitution allows states to determine their own laws. Therefore you are trying to impose your values on another state to which you are not a constituent.

I love the argument about the truck being my home. It is not my home, I cannot use it as an address. It is the property of the a business to be used as transporting commerce.

Miss Moderator:

Here is New Jersey firearms transport law:

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/guns-in-vehicles-in-new-jersey/#:~:text=New%20Jersey%20prohibits%20any%20person,or%20locked%20in%20the%20trunk.

Guns in Vehicles in New Jersey

Last updated October 28, 2019. New Jersey prohibits any person from transporting, possessing or having a firearm in his or her control in a motor vehicle, unless the firearm is unloaded and contained in a closed and securely fastened case, or locked in the trunk.1 The state also prohibits any person from possessing in a motor vehicle any shotgun or rifle loaded with ammunition or missiles of any kind for the purpose of hunting or attempting to hunt any bird or animal.2

New Jersey provides that all firearms being transported between a place of purchase or repair or a dwelling or place of business,3 by members of rifle or pistol clubs under certain circumstances,4 or to or from: 1) hunting and fishing activities pursuant to a valid hunting license; 2) target shooting on a range; or 3) any exhibition or display of firearms,5 shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported.6

My hats off to the state of Oklahoma and other states that have enacted state laws to protect the rights of truck drivers and other employees in regards to being armed while on duty even in company vehicles.

https://www.overdriveonline.com/trucking-law-gun-rights-on-the-road/

"This holding created quite a stir. After this case was decided, the Oklahoma Legislature enacted a statute prohibiting employers from banning firearms in employee vehicles. The Bastible holding played a part in the growth of gun rights legislation.

During the past 20 years, numerous states have adopted “workplace protection” or “parking lot” laws that limit employers’ ability to prohibit firearms on their properties. These states include Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin.

The statues generally say an employer may not restrict a person from transporting or storing a firearm in a locked vehicle in any parking lot, parking garage or other designated area unless the possession of such firearm is prohibited by state or federal law. Some states also limit this employer prohibition to parking areas accessible by the public. Some states require that the firearm be stored in a locked compartment."

Ooops, my bad! I read that article wrong. Oklahoma protects your right to have a gun in your personal vehicle while parked on employer grounds. I'm not sure drivers are yet granted rights by law to keep firearms in company vehicles in any jurisdiction.

I did write President Trump and my US Congressman and Senators this message yesterday morning, however:

"I favor federal legislation that prohibits US employers, freight motor carriers, to make policy against truck drivers for keeping guns in company vehicles for personal security while working or sleeping anywhere in the United States of America. This legislation I hope for might be in the form of some federal "occupational safety" act. It might even amend OSHA standards. Commercial trucks already are required by law to have seat belts, reflective triangles and fire extinguishers for the protection of drivers. Don't drivers also deserve protection from the violent criminal elements as well as they sleep in their cabs? Their cab sleeper area is their home away from home. Why should their personal abode away from home not also be secured against vicious thugs? Many company-employed American truck drivers travel far from home as duty requires it. They are often required to cross state lines. They are often required to work, park and sleep in (often unfamiliar) crime-ridden areas. Their vehicles where they sleep are often not very secure against criminal intrusion. Commercial trucks with onboard sleeping facilities for drivers don't provide nearly the same level of anti-burglar security as a private home or even a motel room. Sleeping drivers are subject to being brutally attacked or murdered as they sleep. It is both cruel and inhumane for companies to fire drivers merely for being armed on the job to feel safe. The risk for being a victim of violent crime is considerable for truck drivers. Many US trucking companies sadly have such anti-gun policy and it's high time for Uncle Sam to put a big stop to all of this.

Furthermore, I favor national concealed-carry federal legislation to allow truck drivers as well all law-abiding American citizens to carry firearms for personal security away from home during their travels. Some states and local jurisdictions are notoriously anti-gun/anti-self-defense and some such places are highly-crime-ridden as well. The federal government should step in and strongly protect the Second Amendment rights of American citizens from anti-gun states, anti-gun local jurisdictions and unscrupulous anti-self-defense employers.

Americans need to feel safe everywhere they travel or work away from home. Truck drivers' and American travelers' collective life and limb matter in Oklahoma, New York City, California, Chicago and everywhere."

My hats off to the state of Oklahoma and other states that have enacted state laws to protect the rights of truck drivers and other employees in regards to being armed while on duty even in company vehicles.

https://www.overdriveonline.com/trucking-law-gun-rights-on-the-road/

"This holding created quite a stir. After this case was decided, the Oklahoma Legislature enacted a statute prohibiting employers from banning firearms in employee vehicles. The Bastible holding played a part in the growth of gun rights legislation.

During the past 20 years, numerous states have adopted “workplace protection” or “parking lot” laws that limit employers’ ability to prohibit firearms on their properties. These states include Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin.

The statues generally say an employer may not restrict a person from transporting or storing a firearm in a locked vehicle in any parking lot, parking garage or other designated area unless the possession of such firearm is prohibited by state or federal law. Some states also limit this employer prohibition to parking areas accessible by the public. Some states require that the firearm be stored in a locked compartment."

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Twin XL

Do carriers supply the mattress or does the driver? Does the carrier supply a mattress but you have the option to sleep on your own personal one? One might worry about lice, something catching or bed bugs for a mattress that others have been using. I would definitely want a spill proof pad for the mattress I use.

Until you get locked up.

I find most people with strong feelings have never had to take another's life.

Better to justifiably kill than unlawfully be murdered.

Anne A, ive been running so hard the last 2 months I just try to sleep, still with FFE and decided to just use common sense VRS carrying out here, I will be honest, this job is hard enough and I don’t understand how and company or anyone for that matter can tell a law abiding citizen that they can’t have the privilege to defend themselves if need be, and please I don’t need here about hammers and bug spray, the 2nd amendment has no articles saying truckers can’t live in peace, anyhow, I hope your all doing well and yes it’s been a while, I live live this job and thank TT for just about everything getting me going, I’m good at this job, I just miss my kids a lot and doing some hard thinking if it’s worth it or not, take care everyone and stay strong.

Jakester, I give you a high five!