Swift Prime Those Big Carrier Question
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They can't legally run team until you have passed your CDL road test and are licensed. Some will try to get you licensed in the first week or two so they can run up the miles and make more money on you "training" you.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Ok i may be wrong but from what Ive read is you go to their school and they train you to get the CDL permit right ? Then you go with a trainer and run team to train ?
Does that mean you are driving while the trainer is sleeping if so doesn't that break the law reading my manual it says the CDL license holder must be in the co pilot seat
Ok, the way that Prime does their training is this, you will go with an instructor until you test out and get your CDL-A. During that time, yes they will be in the passenger seat anytime you are in the drivers seat.
Now during the second phase of training (TNT phase for Prime), you will be driving while your trainer is in the sleeper, but they will only be a shout away should you need/require any assistance. At this point you are a licensed CDL holder and your trainer is not required to be in the jump seat while you are driving.
Not sure how most do this phase, but when I was training I took the first 1 to 2 weeks of basically doing a modified training sometimes in the jump seat, sometimes in the sleeper. I was observing all your moves, asking questions and making sure that you were somewhat comfortable driving by yourself before I went into full blown team status. Even after we went into team driving, I was always checking up on you to make sure you were alright. I was always just a shout away should you need anything. I very rarely slept with the curtain closed during the first few weeks that way you never knew if I was sitting up watching or was sleeping. I slept very light/little during this time because I knew it was a very nervous time for you.
So to recap, yes during the PSD (permit holder time) your instructor is required to be in the jump seat while you drive. During the TNT phase, you are a licensed driver and not longer is the trainer required to be in the jump seat at that point.
Hope this clears things up for you as far as how the training is done at Prime.
Ernie
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
PSD:
Prime Student Driver
Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.
The following is from Prime's website:
Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.
Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days
- Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
- Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
- Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).
On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles
- Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
- Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
- Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
TNT:
Trainer-N-Trainee
Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.
The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.
The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.
Ok i may be wrong but from what Ive read is you go to their school and they train you to get the CDL permit right ? Then you go with a trainer and run team to train ?
Does that mean you are driving while the trainer is sleeping if so doesn't that break the law reading my manual it says the CDL license holder must be in the co pilot seat
Ok, the way that Prime does their training is this, you will go with an instructor until you test out and get your CDL-A. During that time, yes they will be in the passenger seat anytime you are in the drivers seat.
Now during the second phase of training (TNT phase for Prime), you will be driving while your trainer is in the sleeper, but they will only be a shout away should you need/require any assistance. At this point you are a licensed CDL holder and your trainer is not required to be in the jump seat while you are driving.
Not sure how most do this phase, but when I was training I took the first 1 to 2 weeks of basically doing a modified training sometimes in the jump seat, sometimes in the sleeper. I was observing all your moves, asking questions and making sure that you were somewhat comfortable driving by yourself before I went into full blown team status. Even after we went into team driving, I was always checking up on you to make sure you were alright. I was always just a shout away should you need anything. I very rarely slept with the curtain closed during the first few weeks that way you never knew if I was sitting up watching or was sleeping. I slept very light/little during this time because I knew it was a very nervous time for you.
So to recap, yes during the PSD (permit holder time) your instructor is required to be in the jump seat while you drive. During the TNT phase, you are a licensed driver and not longer is the trainer required to be in the jump seat at that point.
Hope this clears things up for you as far as how the training is done at Prime.
Ernie
Thanks Ernie it cleared up a little I plan to go with Millis but Prime is my 2nd choice where ever i end up i just want to learn as much as i can
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
PSD:
Prime Student Driver
Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.
The following is from Prime's website:
Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.
Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days
- Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
- Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
- Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).
On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles
- Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
- Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
- Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
TNT:
Trainer-N-Trainee
Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.
The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.
The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.
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Ok i may be wrong but from what Ive read is you go to their school and they train you to get the CDL permit right ? Then you go with a trainer and run team to train ?
Does that mean you are driving while the trainer is sleeping if so doesn't that break the law reading my manual it says the CDL license holder must be in the co pilot seat
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: