Second Guessing Myself

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James R.'s Comment
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What 6 is saying has some good merit. Under no circumstance would i do this regional job even if i had any family.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Rob T.'s Comment
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6 string, why are you always pushing people to go LTL route so badly? I understand most people don't know they have the possibility of getting that kind of job right out of school, but it's as if somebody chooses not to you get ****y. Just because people got hired 2 months ago doesn't mean the companies are still hiring, or that he meets their requirements. Also it's been documented here how some drivers choose LTL straight out of school and damage their career due to mistakes they make trying to manage in the city all day. We're thankful for you showing people the possibility, but quit taking it personally if someone chooses not to listen to you.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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6 string, why are you always pushing people to go LTL route so badly? I understand most people don't know they have the possibility of getting that kind of job right out of school, but it's as if somebody chooses not to you get ****y. Just because people got hired 2 months ago doesn't mean the companies are still hiring, or that he meets their requirements. Also it's been documented here how some drivers choose LTL straight out of school and damage their career due to mistakes they make trying to manage in the city all day. We're thankful for you showing people the possibility, but quit taking it personally if someone chooses not to listen to you.

You haven't even driven a truck for a paycheck yet. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm write my responses not only for the OP in most threads, but for the general public. Why? Because I know what it's like to have a young family and be a truck driver.

I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity that some would kill for. It's not uncommon in the northeast. It's not about convincing somebody to make the same choice I did, it's about knowing what it's like to have a young family and maximizing your paycheck and hometime. I don't care if somebody doesn't make my decisions. I care about paying it forward. There is absolutely no judgement. I know the OP based on previous email correspondence. My response was tailored to that and also trying to spread the word to publicly in this thread to whoever has the same opportunities with the same family responsibilities.

You have no idea how many people got hired in LTL in our area. You have no idea how many drivers out of school are successful in LTL, despite what some commentators say on this website. Moderators caution new drivers not to take certain jobs based on risk - understandably so. But I've witnessed MANY drivers become successful in LTL - linehaul or P&D. In my experience, many drivers have been successful as a city or linehaul driver right out of school.

It's not personal outside of the fact that I just want others to experience the same financial freedom and hometime that I've expericenced - if that's what they want and if that's an option. I don't care about others choosing my path. I care about others knowing about options that might be best for their family.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rob T.'s Comment
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You sure seemed to take that personal, but what do I know? Your right, nobody else knows what they're talking about. How is it that you don't care about others choosing you path, yet you seemed to be quick it point out how others got hired at the time Tyler was trying when he got passed up. There have been many threads discussing the route you took and yet you always seem to **** off people as you come across as an arrogant person. Personally, I am happy for you that you have a job you like but you constantly seem to keep telling someone they need to consider LTL even after they're decision has been made. Your right, I haven't driven a truck for a paycheck yet as my title says "considering a career". Good observation, glad you could figure that out. I am sorry Tyler for posting this in your thread, and am not going to continue posting in this thread. Tyler, I wish you the best, and 6 string I'm glad your career is going the way you like.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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You sure seemed to take that personal, but what do I know? Your right, nobody else knows what they're talking about. How is it that you don't care about others choosing you path, yet you seemed to be quick it point out how others got hired at the time Tyler was trying when he got passed up. There have been many threads discussing the route you took and yet you always seem to **** off people as you come across as an arrogant person. Personally, I am happy for you that you have a job you like but you constantly seem to keep telling someone they need to consider LTL even after they're decision has been made. Your right, I haven't driven a truck for a paycheck yet as my title says "considering a career". Good observation, glad you could figure that out. I am sorry Tyler for posting this in your thread, and am not going to continue posting in this thread. Tyler, I wish you the best, and 6 string I'm glad your career is going the way you like.

You're right Rob. I"ve got it all figured out. And I take everything personal... Jeesh man, did you read ANYTHING I just said? Don't poison the forum because for some strange reason you've got a boner for me.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Tyler Durden's Comment
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I am in no way arguing the fact that ltl companies are hiring but i am saying none are hiring me and it is not due to lack of effort. i know conway is not and neither is OD. I had an opportunity with YRC and i chose maverick. YRC could have had me home more often but certainly not every day. i tried estes, ward, new penn, pitt ohio, abf, ups, fed ex ...... no luck. congrats some people did get hired and i didnt ...... why? who knows why they did and i didnt.

in no way am i unhappy with the decision to join maverick ...... IN NO WAY. they have been nothing but accommodating to me and in constant contact. even other drivers still message me on facebook welcoming me to the company. All I am saying is I know the 7 weeks I am gone to orientation is not going to be easy. I have a 12 year old and a 16 year old so kids are not little per say. the 16 year old is working now and hardly home anyways. The 12 year old will be the hard part. i know i will be looking at any place i go for little gifts for her and i will cherish the weekends with them........but the 7 weeks wont be easy. facetime ....yes...... calls daily..... yes.

Do i sit and wonder if there is something else i could have done more of? Yes, thus the second guessing. But i know i tried and i did what i could. Didnt work out for me. So now i am going dedicated regional home weekends. I am starting at .52 cpm .....STARTING at that. With a minimum guaranteed wage of 850 per week. All that with no experience. I am blessed for that. yes i got all those figures in writing ...... plus tuition reimbursement.

and i guess we are even as your comments have struck a nerve with me as i feel you are implying like i didnt even try for ltl

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
6 string rhythm's Comment
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Tyler, I don't know why you weren't hired, I just know that LTL companies have hired since you've been looking. To me, if you wanted a job in LTL, you could have one, simple as that.

If you're happy with your decision then I'm happy for you. I know how happy I am and just want others to share in that happiness if they have the same opportunities and desires. Simple as that. No offense intended.

Best of luck to you.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
Tyler Durden's Comment
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Tyler, I don't know why you weren't hired, I just know that LTL companies have hired since you've been looking. To me, if you wanted a job in LTL, you could have one, simple as that.

As stated before and I will say again, I tried. I cannot force anyone to call me or even offer a interview. I have also heard from a friend at Conway and fed ex that they are slow right now. Fed ex still has drivers who went through there driver program waiting but still stuck on docks. So I'm told.

Spare me the comment if I wanted one I could have one.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
Pat M.'s Comment
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Tyler, one thing that you can do to surprise her is send her post cards from where ever you happen to be. Kids love to get stuff in the mail, even a post card because it is addressed to them. I think that would be more dear to her than some trinkets you might pick up. I am not saying not to buy her gifts but she is going to love you with or without the gifts, don't buy them because you feel guilty.

My youngest daughter is back in Tennessee and I am in Montana. She was telling me about a new boyfriend. I bugged her for a photo and when she asked why I wanted a photo of her boyfriend, I told her so that I did not kill the wrong kid!....LOL

Tyler Durden's Comment
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Tyler, one thing that you can do to surprise her is send her post cards from where ever you happen to be. Kids love to get stuff in the mail, even a post card because it is addressed to them. I think that would be more dear to her than some trinkets you might pick up. I am not saying not to buy her gifts but she is going to love you with or without the gifts, don't buy them because you feel guilty.

My youngest daughter is back in Tennessee and I am in Montana. She was telling me about a new boyfriend. I bugged her for a photo and when she asked why I wanted a photo of her boyfriend, I told her so that I did not kill the wrong kid!....LOL

Great advice and that truly made me laugh. Sounds exactly like what I keep telling my daughter when she mentions dating.

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