Celadon Training School Truth Or Lies?

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Wild O.'s Comment
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As far as the permits. Don't bother getting them before leaving home. When you get here, you will first have to get an IN driver's license then you will take your tests to get your IN permits. There have been no states that I have seen that they accept other than the IN ones. From what I understand, that is an IN rule, not a Celadon rule.

Some states require you, when you return to take all the test all over again. That you will have to check with your state. I know IL, NY, and CA require you to start from scratch to transfer your license back to their state.

If you need more help, keep up with my posts in the other forum on here.

Keep it safe out there. Joe S

Well add Ga to that list but if I have to get an Dl in that state I cant even go. The rule hear is if you get a second Dl in any state you have to give up your Ga Dl and have to lose all state assistance. You are not allowed to hold a Dl in any other state if you live in Ga.

I was told that at the DMV and by the lady at DFCS who said if I had to get a Dl up their they have to cut my family off of assistance, and they cant make it with out it no money for food or heat.

I guess I will be returning home Monday if that is the case. Ga is a problem when it comes to things like that. I hope they understand I cant get a Dl with out losing my stuff in Ga.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Joe S. (a.k.a. The Blue 's Comment
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As far as the permits. Don't bother getting them before leaving home. When you get here, you will first have to get an IN driver's license then you will take your tests to get your IN permits. There have been no states that I have seen that they accept other than the IN ones. From what I understand, that is an IN rule, not a Celadon rule.

Some states require you, when you return to take all the test all over again. That you will have to check with your state. I know IL, NY, and CA require you to start from scratch to transfer your license back to their state.

If you need more help, keep up with my posts in the other forum on here.

Keep it safe out there. Joe S

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Well add Ga to that list but if I have to get an Dl in that state I cant even go. The rule hear is if you get a second Dl in any state you have to give up your Ga Dl and have to lose all state assistance. You are not allowed to hold a Dl in any other state if you live in Ga.

I was told that at the DMV and by the lady at DFCS who said if I had to get a Dl up their they have to cut my family off of assistance, and they cant make it with out it no money for food or heat.

I guess I will be returning home Monday if that is the case. Ga is a problem when it comes to things like that. I hope they understand I cant get a Dl with out losing my stuff in Ga.

You don't have a choice. Indiana makes you get a DL for their state. You can call Quality Driving school and confirm that. They will tell you the same thing.

Keep it safe out there. Joe S

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Wild O.'s Comment
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Well most of the stuff The recruiters told us was pure bull. Place this on the last choice in hell list.

1. We arrived Sunday and they had no room and didn't have us on any list to arrive. It took 2 hr to get a room because no on was around to approve us. 2. We started to talk to the 25 or so people outside the motel and it was one story after another of how long they had been in training. List at bottom. 3. Got to day one couldn't get free food not on the approved list. 4. Entered class and found 15 people from weeks prior still in class of 20 new students. Ie most was from other hotels 5 from ours. 5. Told we have to get a Indiana DL before we can take any classes or test 6. Told they would not be teaching or helping with the DL up their it was on you to get it and learn the rules and laws , they are way different from most states speed limits and signage and just a mix of stuff different. if you go and cant pass it you have lost the ability to get a CDL and Drive a car your DL is suspended in your state and you no longer have one. Your insurance is dropped in your home state and the other stuff that comes with moving to another state because most all states see this as moving out of state as you have to certify that you live in Indiana to get DL. 7. Told you must get TANKER, HASMAT, DOUBLE and TRIPS. After recruiter told us we was not required to do so. 8. Entered Scott's office to address all this and was told they wasn't required to tell any one about the Dl and that they would never tell any one they didn't have to get the endorsements. This after some of the guys at motel had stated they didn't get endorsements in their class but other classes had. 9. Told if we had by Scott that all their drivers had to hold all this or couldn't work for them. my team mate has 2 members of family working for them and no endorsements he had no reply to that but it was a lie. 10 got told we shouldn't get any money back for the trip because we was told all this before we arrived. then told the hotel to charge us for the room. The lady told us not to worry they do that at least 15 to 20 times a month they just bill them any way. 11. The com checks had money taken out of them after they had given them to us 5.00 a small price to pay to get out of the lies. we got half of our cost to get out.

Motel Stories We arrived to get the room an was standing around talking to the guys looking to wash close and smoking and got told all kind stuff as fallows. 1. Guy asked if we was their for training when he heard we couldn't get in a room we told him yep how you guess he said they had all just been kicked from the other hotel and that lots of guys had to double up in rooms. we started asking what the deal with training was and he laughed he said they had been 5 weeks to get to the range and he was getting like 20 min a day. 2. Others said the same thing as we all got closer to talk. They started to open up to it all. 3.The guys had all been told mostly the same thing no endorsements and only 1 had them but was made to go back and get them after needing a sleep study to get cdl. 4. No one had seen a truck till week 4 if at all, 3 guys was week 6 and no trainers yet. 5. Told they had only 2 trucks on range and 2 road trucks and the hole group was walking to the range because the 2 busses used to take you over was always full. 6. They said you only have 2 chances to get a cdl if in 14 to 16 days you didn't get them you go home on your dime that lots of people go home that way. 7.A few min later some others joined us and they had class a all ready and had gotten a trainer and was road training at week 1 and 2 that they was priority and trainers go with them first. 8. The group all agreed with that statement and had a few choice words ill not repeat about it. 9. The group started to brake down at that point and others started in that some had been in class as long as 10 weeks and no pay checks and had spent only a few hours with trainers because they was going on a list of people 1 day out and then the next guy goes but no one had seen any one complete training in less than 3 months or more in a few months.

I don't make a habit of passing on lies or telling lies, but all the part truths and other stuff I read around the web came to a head when we arrived. This is the way it was but you can take it with a grain of salt if you like but when you get their you will find out is all I can say. We was also told when we left and started calling Central about going to their school if you sign or test dot or any thing for Celadon no one will hire you or train you its a career killer off the bat. The managers talked to us and had heard the same stuff and gave us a full run down of what they do and checked on the stuff to come to them over the phone.

They sent us money to drive back home on and got us a room for the week so we can start with the local school next week.

ALL THIS IS MY AND A CO DRIVERS EXP AND I DO NOT WISH TO PUSH IT OFF AS ANY THING OTHER THAN WHAT HAPPENED TO US OTHERS MAY HAVE A DIFFRENT EXP BUT LOOK BEFOR YOU LEEP.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I DO NOT WISH TO PUSH IT OFF AS ANY THING OTHER THAN WHAT HAPPENED TO US

It's odd, because it doesn't seem like anything actually happened to you. You said you showed up and there was no hotel room ready, you talked to a bunch of people, and you left. Were you even there for two days? It doesn't sound like you ever even got a hotel room and you left. So I don't think you have any actual experiences to share, just a bunch of complaints you've passed on from other people you met there.

Jerry's Comment
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God that was hard to read.

At this point in time, I am going to be going to Celadon for CDL training. I start on Oct 7th. And I vow to NOT become someone who makes such a rash decision to leave what appears to be just a day or two after I arrive just because other people are complaining.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Jerry's Comment
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Also, from my understanding, my CDL will be from Indiana and "will have my Ohio DL on it". I'm supposed to take the Indiana CDL back here to Ohio and get it transferred. I've not been informed of being required to get any endorsements. The 240,000 miles that we're supposed to drive is 240,000 TEAM miles. You and your teammate must move that truck 240,000 miles. If you get 130,000 and your teammate only gets 110,000, it still qualifies as the 240,000 then you can do as you please from there. I'll be calling another more secior recruiter to verify everything I've said here, and will be back later.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Daniel B.'s Comment
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That was an A+ Ripoff Report complaint.

Gotta be honest with you man. I don't think you have the attitude that it takes to survive trucking. If you happen to make it any longer than a day or two then ill predict you'll be the guy who has to go through 3 different trainers and eventually kicked out for complaining nonstop.

Jerry's Comment
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Talked to another recruiter, and asked some specific questions, got the following replies:

* FEMALES are having trouble finding trainers, MALES are not, right now * 240k miles TEAM-ACCUMULATED miles * HAZMAT , Double/Triple, and Tanker Endorsements REQUIRED * They DO help with the Indiana DL

So, mixed in with some complete BS was some truth, but regardless, some of these questions should've been asked in the first place.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Daniel B.'s Comment
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Talked to another recruiter, and asked some specific questions, got the following replies:

* FEMALES are having trouble finding trainers, MALES are not, right now * 240k miles TEAM-ACCUMULATED miles * HAZMAT , Double/Triple, and Tanker Endorsements REQUIRED * They DO help with the Indiana DL

So, mixed in with some complete BS was some truth, but regardless, some of these questions should've been asked in the first place.

Every companies recruiter is going to toss some B.S. at you. When my wife was going to start with Central she told me everything that the recruiter said to her and 80% of it was false. It's just something you have to put up with. You need to sift through all the information and find out what's valid and what's not. It's just how it is with every company.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Woody's Comment
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t doesn't sound like you ever even got a hotel room and you left. So I don't think you have any actual experiences to share, just a bunch of complaints you've passed on from other people you met there.

He says he went to class and couldn't eat because he wasn't on the list, and that there where people in the class from previous training sessions. So I do think he or she did get a room and try to start training.

I'm a little surprised how quick people seem to be on him for relating what he experienced. Yes some of it was what he was told by other people, but some of it was also first hand experience. Strange thing is some of what he was told has also been expressed by another poster in a different thread in the training forum.

I'm not taking anyone's side, just merely pointing out its not the first time some of these things have been said about celadon on this site.

Am I missing something?

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