Failed Pre-employment Drug Screen
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Did any one ever find out if you fail a pre employment drug test and you go to apply for another place and pass will the new company see the failed one?
In 2000 I obtained my CDL and drove for 5 years. After my boss sold his company we all had 90 days to find another trucking job. I went out that weekend and partied a bit. About a week after that I went and applied for a driving position OTR with a local company, and failed the pre-employment drug screen. Ever since this I have attempted other companies and the same thing happened so I gave up my CDL. It's been 13 years since I've had my CDL and was wondering if I can re-apply for training like I did when I first started... (?). Would I still be registered with DAC even 13 years without a CDL?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
OTR:
Over The Road
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
I think it also depends if it was a hair test or urine. With no fed regulations on hair test yet if you fail one pre-employment I don't think they can share that information.
I think that might be debatable.
Companies that do hair - do not do urine - and hire people based on clean results. So apparently - even though it's not in the CFR, or referenced as a rule under FMCSA - the feds are finding it acceptable for a DOT Safety Sensitive Pre-Employment Drug Screen.
Rick
This is an old post, and the process has probably changed, but I have found that the companies today doing hair tests also do urine tests. Maybe they found out the feds didn't accept hair without also testing urine.
As to the DAC question, sorry, I cannot answer that, but I can tell you how to get a copy of your DAC
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
I'm heading for Swift in Fontana, CA. On Monday at 7 am we all be tested, urine and hair. So if you stay legal then what is the worry.
I'm heading for Swift in Fontana, CA. On Monday at 7 am we all be tested, urine and hair. So if you stay legal then what is the worry.
No worries, just wanted to have correct info so no one is confused.
I would believe that it would be on your Dac or placed somewhere else. By failing a DOT drug screen I believe it’s registered in a database somewhere.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
I'm heading for Swift in Fontana, CA. On Monday at 7 am we all be tested, urine and hair. So if you stay legal then what is the worry.
This is my thought whenever anyone asks the drug questions lol - just don't do drugs, kids ;)
Trucking companies ask for 10 year employment record if you have driven and 3 years without having driven. Im not sure if the DAC would keep everything or just the last X number of years. When i had my accident, Prime told me it stays on my Prime record forever, but other companies would only see the last 3 years.
Answer the questions specifically. "Have you ever failed a drug test" is different from "have you failed a drug test in the last 10 years".
Ask your recruiter or call their safety or security departments. At my company all the various departments scrutinize you before employment.
good luck
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
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In Swift trucks, there's a "Permit Book" that has all the licenses and permits necessary for your travels.
There's also a sealed envelope with Drug Test instructions on it. I have not had the honor of providing a "field sample", but I suppose they can ask you at any time to use that kit.