Drinking In The Truck.

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Danny S.'s Comment
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It sounds like this guy needs to go back and re-read the rules and regulations regarding alcohol and having a CDL license. Our instructor told us today that if you use any kind of mouthwash that has alcohol in it and they check you, you could lose your license for a year. He also said that if your drank tonight and even though you sleep tonight and then tomorrow they checked you you could still have enough alcohol in your blood to be consider under the influence of alcohol.

1.2.2 – Alcohol, Leaving the Scene of an Accident, and Commission of a Felony It is illegal to operate a CMV if your blood alcohol concentration (BAC) is .04% or more. If you operate a CMV, you shall be deemed to have given your consent to alcohol testing. You will lose your CDL for at least one year for a first offense for: • Driving a CMV if your blood alcohol concentration is .04% or higher. • Driving a CMV under the influence of alcohol. • Refusing to undergo blood alcohol testing. • Driving a CMV while under the influence of a controlled substance

As I have heard it said, when you have a CDL the authorities hold you to a higher standard and expect you to be a professional whether you in the truck or not. That is why their is so many rules and regulations regarding these things. And I think this is the way it ought to be - just my opinion take it for what it is worth.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Starcar's Comment
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Did you know, that using mouthwash with alcohol in it, OR Nyquil (has alcohol in it), OR most kinds of cough syrup (have alcohol in them), will put your BAL at or above .04 ??? Yup. you can' have ANYTHING with alcohol in it in your truck. And to think a a teen I used to drink Robitussin every weekend. But it was n't for the alcohol....it used to have codeine in it !!!!! yup..otc drugs...who'd a thunk it...

Ahhhhh....the good old days....I remember them vaguely...thru the fog.....

PR aka Road Hog's Comment
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To take this a step further, you need to avoid certain mouthwashes, like listerine. The alcohol in there will stay on your breath for over 10 hours and will cause you to test positive for alcohol, and cost you a DUI. From what I hear, some DOT officers will pop you if they simply see the bottle of mouthwash.

I heard another story of a driver that used and old whiskey bottle to collect his loose change. BAM ... open container !!

Finally, the company I drive for ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITS ***ANY*** ALCOHOL IN THE TRUCK WHATSOEVER. This includes alcohol wipes, like baby wipes, mouthwash, or anything other than an alcohol swab like what you find in a med kit.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

William K.'s Comment
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I talked to a guy that got a beer bottle cap stuck in the tread of his boot in a parking lot, the cap came loose in the cab of his truck, dot found it 13 months later on a random inspection, Guy lost his CDL , spent 6 months in jail ., 2000 dollar ticket, and has to wear an iron mask for 10 years

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I talked to a guy that got a beer bottle cap stuck in the tread of his boot in a parking lot, the cap came loose in the cab of his truck, dot found it 13 months later on a random inspection, Guy lost his CDL , spent 6 months in jail ., 2000 dollar ticket, and has to wear an iron mask for 10 years

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What was the name of this driver? Was it Bunyan? Paul Bunyan?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Garth M.'s Comment
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To take this a step further, you need to avoid certain mouthwashes, like listerine. The alcohol in there will stay on your breath for over 10 hours and will cause you to test positive for alcohol, and cost you a DUI. From what I hear, some DOT officers will pop you if they simply see the bottle of mouthwash.

I heard another story of a driver that used and old whiskey bottle to collect his loose change. BAM ... open container !!

Finally, the company I drive for ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITS ***ANY*** ALCOHOL IN THE TRUCK WHATSOEVER. This includes alcohol wipes, like baby wipes, mouthwash, or anything other than an alcohol swab like what you find in a med kit.

I think you mean 10 minutes, at least from what I've gathered reading up on the subject.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

not4hire's Comment
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There sure is a lot of nonsense posted in this thread.

Company policies notwithstanding--which can be stricter than FMCSA regulations--there is no prohibition against mouthwash, or similar personal hygiene products, being in a CMV. Nor is there a prohibition on any other products containing alcohol, other than those intended for human consumption; i.e., beer, wine, spirits. Do you know what air brake antifreeze is? About 90-100% alcohol.

Any legal alcohol testing method will determine the difference between momentary alcohol on your breath from mouthwash and alcohol impairment from drinking. Now, if you're drinking your mouthwash, hand sanitizer or your air brake antifreeze, you can't be helped.

There is, in fact, a time when the FMCSA specifically says you can have alcoholic drinks in the cab... when you are off-duty and transporting them from the store to your place of lodging, etc.

Guidance for § 392.5: Alcohol prohibition.

Question 3: Does the prohibition against carrying alcoholic beverages in §392.5 apply to a driver who uses a company vehicle, for personal reasons, while off-duty?

Guidance: No. For example, an owner-operator using his/her own vehicle in an off-duty status, or a driver using a company truck or tractor for transportation to a motel, restaurant, or home, would normally be outside the scope of this section.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/392.5

Oh, and if you're a recovering alcoholic, good for you, but keep your judgemental opinions to yourself.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
LDRSHIP's Comment
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Talk about resurrecting the dead.

Simple truth of it is don't do it. Do not have alcohol in you or in your truck. To do so is just asking for trouble.

My personal opinion is: If you can't wait until you are at home to have a drink, then turn in your license and go to rehab.

H. O. Wolding'S Policy is no alcohol on company property. Also you are not allowed to be on company property if you have consumed alcohol in the last 24 hours.

John M.'s Comment
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So and this is a serious question, not being smart or anything, Say your a flatbed driver right? your heading home you buy a case of beer, can you strap it down on the flat bed and that be okay? or would they say something about that too? like, it's not in the cab, you can't get to it and the case itself isn't opened in any way?

Agian, Serious question.

Partagas's Comment
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Say your a flatbed driver right? your heading home you buy a case of beer, can you strap it down on the flat bed and that be okay? or would they say something about that too?

No. Section 392.5 prohibits a driver possessing alcohol while on duty or operating a CMV , unless it is manifested and part of a shipment.

Manifest:

Bill of Lading

An accurate record of everything being shipped on a truck, often times used as a checklist during unloading.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
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