Prime Inc And Sleep Apnea

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Dan L.'s Comment
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Just a Friendly tip: If you come to Prime and enroll in the student training program, you may be required to participate in a sleep apnea study. This wouldn't be so bad except they charge you about $600 to do so and if you don't, you can't move forward in the program and can't obtain your cdl. I'm enrolled in their Prime Student Driver program now and this came up today and cought many people by surprise. It seemed like it was targeted at the very overweight crowd. Other than that, it has been a great experience so far, and if all goes well, I'll be "cleared" and leave with my instructor on Saturday.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

Justin B.'s Comment
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Dan! I'm here too, just did my sleep study cause I'm over weight, but I have my appointment and two thirty today. Hopefully I'll see you around! If everything goes good, though, I should be leaving this evening with my trainer.

Britton R.'s Comment
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Is that an expense thay they cover up front and you pay it back when you go solo or is that out of pocket? Do you know of you can do the test somewhere else prior to going to Prime? I'm looking at going to Prime training in August. I'm hoping to lose a bunch of weight prior to leaving but need a backup plan just in case. It seems like they are hustling people. That's my fear. Showing up and not being able to afford the study and then get sent home where I already quit my job.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Edgar G.'s Comment
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Dan! I'm here too, just did my sleep study cause I'm over weight, but I have my appointment and two thirty today. Hopefully I'll see you around! If everything goes good, though, I should be leaving this evening with my trainer.

From your pic you don't look overweight. What do they consider to be overweight??

Brett Aquila's Comment
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What do they consider to be overweight??

At Prime, I believe if you have a BMI (body mass index) of 39 or above they require a sleep apnea test. There are a ton of BMI calculators online to figure out what your BMI is. You can just Google it and they'll come up.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Body Mass Index:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Big Daddy's Comment
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So are you disqualified from driving if you have apnea?

Brett Aquila's Comment
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So are you disqualified from driving if you have apnea?

No, not at all. They'll require you to have a CPAP machine in the truck which is just a small box that helps pump oxygen to you while you sleep. There are a lot of drivers out there with them now, and it's becoming more common as they increase the level of testing for it throughout the industry.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

William W.'s Comment
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I have been thinking about Prime as well and have actually started the paperwork process. I DO have sleep apnea (I'm 6'3" and 250 lbs) but use a CPAP machine everynight and that takes care of the problem. Would they accept a letter from my doctor saying a study was done and I am fine now with the machine? Maybe that's a question only the recruiter can answer...

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Britton R.'s Comment
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I would assume you would be fine because you have it taken care of already. You shouldn't need a test for it or have like that. I'd check with a recruiter but I don't think it would be an issue.

Moglar's Comment
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First of all the biggest cause of sleep disorders is not snoring . The biggest issue is when the body’ circadian rhythm gets disrupted.

Often referred to as the "body clock", circadian rhythm is a 24-hour cycle that rules us all. This internal body clock is affected by external forces, such as sun rise and time zones. And when one's circadian rhythm is disrupted by, say jet lag, sleeping and eating patterns can run amok.

Drivers being awake when they should be sleeping….sleeping when they are awake and essentially screwing up their internal clocks is what causes the real sleep issue. This is the real issue. How many times have you spent hours at a dock getting loaded then had to drive all night. I am not going to post a laundry list of sleep issues. I think you get the point.

The sleep apnea issue is a red herring. Screwing up your own internal clock (as I mentioned above) is the absolutely worse thing you can do!!

Sounds like a carrier got the crap sued out of them for someone falling asleep and the sleep study was probably part of the settlement. THE REAL CAUSE IS SCREWING UP THE BODYS CIRCADIAN RHYTHEM!!

However....if that is a condition of employment....its the employers right to ask you to submit for a sleep study.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

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