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Edward G.'s Comment
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I failed dot drug test for driving school about six years ago and I have been clean for awhile now will failed dot drug test still show up on me I already had permit before they fired me and should I put it on my applications that I have failed a drug test looking to get cdl training by company sponsored.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Parrothead66's Comment
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Did you fail the test to get in school? If it was a drug test for the school then more than likely it's not on a DOT record.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brian M.'s Comment
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This is the way it will go down. "Have you ever failed a drug test in order for employment or pre employment?" That's the question they will ask. Your best bet is to apply to as many company's as you can and be honest with the question.

The investigation is thorough and not telling them is just not an option Good Luck.

Edward G.'s Comment
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thanks for you guys replies was helpful parrothead66 and Brian M.

This is the way it will go down. Have you ever failed a drug test in order for employment or pre employment. That's the question they will ask. Your best bet is to apply to as many company's as you can and be honest with the question.

The investigation is thorough and not telling them is just not an option Good Luck.

Edward G.'s Comment
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yes it was first day drug test for school

This is the way it will go down. Have you ever failed a drug test in order for employment or pre employment. That's the question they will ask. Your best bet is to apply to as many company's as you can and be honest with the question.

The investigation is thorough and not telling them is just not an option Good Luck.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Did you fail the test to get in school? If it was a drug test for the school then more than likely it's not on a DOT record.

Actually - since schools operate CMV's on public streets - this ACTUALLY IS A DOT DRUG SCREEN.

Whether or not it was reported to DAC is debatable. It was quite likely reported to FMCSA.

Rick

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Edward G.'s Comment
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thanks so would it affect me know from getting into school

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Did you fail the test to get in school? If it was a drug test for the school then more than likely it's not on a DOT record.

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Actually - since schools operate CMV's on public streets - this ACTUALLY IS A DOT DRUG SCREEN.

Whether or not it was reported to DAC is debatable. It was quite likely reported to FMCSA.

Rick

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Rick S.'s Comment
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thanks so would it affect me know from getting into school

This is where it might get sticky - depending on whether or not it was REPORTED.

No one here, would tell you to LIE on an application or DOT Medical Form.

Pretty much every application ASKS if you have ever failed a Drug Test - and they don't give "time windows" (ex: have you ever failed a drug test in the last 5 years?).

If you LIE and it shows up on a background check somewhere - instant termination. If you answer honestly - most companies would likely not even follow up on the application. There are plenty of folks that haven't answered YES to the question, for them to bother with a "potential problem child" so early in the process.

You could pull a copy of your DAC - and see if it shows up there. How do I get a copy of my DAC Report?

There is a specific "return to duty protocol" for failed drug tests - but usually, most new applicants that follow this, still find themselves pretty much screwed for the immediate future - and I really haven't heard the results of someone "waiting a few years and trying again".

You can try and "blind call" a recruiter at a company you have NO INTENTION OF WORKING FOR, and ask them.

"Hey - I failed a drug screen at a private trucking school 6 years ago, should I even bother applying?"

Pull a DAC and see if it shows up. If it does - you are pretty much screwed. If it doesn't - you could try and "roll the dice" and not disclose.

Best of luck - keep us posted.

Rick

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Edward G.'s Comment
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I failed dot drug test for driving school about six years ago and I have been clean for awhile now will failed dot drug test still show up on me I already had permit before they fired me and should I put it on my applications that I have failed a drug test looking to get cdl training by company sponsored.

Brett Aquila would you please touch base on this subject you seem really informative on this subject thanks to everyone and GOD BLESS YOU ALL

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I failed dot drug test for driving school about six years ago and I have been clean for awhile now will failed dot drug test still show up on me I already had permit before they fired me and should I put it on my applications that I have failed a drug test looking to get cdl training by company sponsored.

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Brett Aquila would you please touch base on this subject you seem really informative on this subject thanks to everyone and GOD BLESS YOU ALL

To be honest, Rick is way better when it comes to digging up technicalities than I am and he was typing out his latest answer as you were asking this. If Rick can't find the answer to a technical question, no one can.

Without a doubt you would be able to pay your way into a private school, but I have no idea what would happen if you tried getting into a company-sponsored training program. Failing a drug test really is one of the toughest things to overcome, unfortunately.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

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