Seeks HOS Violation Info
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Sooooo today I had my first and hopefully my last HOS violation. I drove us from our last load receiver to the shipper of our new load, that took about 3 hours. Dropped the trailer, and waited in the staging area. I spent about 5 hours in the sleeper, then we were loaded and ready to go. I drove the rest of my 14 not needing to break. Now here is the issue. Trying to find a place to stop as I was running out of time I went over by 2 minutes.
How big of a deal is this?
Fir any Prime drivers that used to train, still train, or anything. I have been told when I upgrade they review my HOS and we don't know what will happen if I have a violation.
Any guidance here would be appreciated.
I had to go over my hours today. Here's how I handled it.
Had 1.5h on my 11 and 2.75h on my 14 when I got to my shipper. When he started loading me, I realized my 14 was about 30m away from catching my 11. I was looking at the route and trying to find a place to park on trucker path, but couldn't find anything along 495 or 290 except for a rest area that showed as being full. Closest LEGAL park location was the Schneider drop lot in Shrewsbury MA. I messaged my DBL saying that I'll have to go over my hours to get to a safe and legal park location. He eventually replied with "do what you have to do, safety first."
I got there and showed my post trip with 20m over my 14 and 11m over my 11. I got there as soon as safely possible, had to take a few bits slow cause heavy load and rural highway (windy curves and such). Oh and the rest area along the way? Yeah, completely full. Even saw another Schneider parked in the car parking. Thought about getting the truck # and calling it in, cause Schneider will fire us for doing something illegal like that (plus it makes us look bad).
TL;DR: it's better to let someone know before you go over so they're aware of the situation ahead of time. They may even find a nearby customer that will allow you to park overnight.
Shipper:
The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Oh and the rest area along the way? Yeah, completely full. Even saw another Schneider parked in the car parking. Thought about getting the truck # and calling it in, cause Schneider will fire us for doing something illegal like that (plus it makes us look bad).
Wow...this is in the same post that you said you went over your hours. I'm speechless.
You're going to snitch out a fellow driver for parking? Really? Wow!
I'll just bite my tongue here a little bit. LOL!
Wow!
JJ
Pianoman beat me to it.
I mean really?
Wow!
JJ
Eric, your trainer is actually smarter than you think. You see, you have the basics down. Now he is preparing you for solo life without him being there to hold your hand. If he saved you by telling you that you're about to pass the washout what good would that do for you? With how everything unfolded it was a great learning experience for you.
He's just grooming you for solo life out there. Unfortunately that requires some bumps that you must overcome along the way.
Keep at it and don't get mad at the guy because he knows what he's doing. Go with the flow and learn instead of critiquing someone who doesn't need it. Good luck sir.
Daniel, sorry if it seemed like I was upset about him not telling me, it was more about the fact I tried to do it by navigating to it, he told me not to do that then was mentioning how we were falling behind. So I just took off. Then he wants to tell me I should have out the address in the god, that's what I tried to do and he told me not to.
Now imagine a mentor who barely speaks English, who has a problem explaining stuff. I already mentioned this to my coordinator but its like, just deal with it anyhow. I do not know how much I will learn from him. Saw a message on qualcom yesterday about me being nearly in violation re off duty. When I asked to look at the messages he deleted them quick and told me you can only be on off duty a maximum of 2 hrs at a time, true? Not long after I was driving and we entered a weigh station in FL. Guess what, got a citation coz the tandem placing was wrong for the state of FL. Was told it will not impact my DL but I might get points from the company. Explained to my coordinator and he said he will fight off the point for me. Was very frustrated!!
True.
In a teaming situation, training or not, the passenger must do at least 8 in the sleeper while the other drives. You do get a violation warning if you are off duty for more than two hours while the other drives.
Some QC recognize if the truck is moving and others do not. So if you are off duty at a TS to get a shower etc, take two hours then you get rolling, it might threaten to violate you...And the logs Dept can correct it because you actually are not violating cause the truck is not rolling.
My trainers truck did this all the time. My current truck seems to differentiate between driving off duty and parked off duty.
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Unholychaos wrote:
Even saw another Schneider parked in the car parking. Thought about getting the truck # and calling it in, cause Schneider will fire us for doing something illegal like that (plus it makes us look bad.
WOW...your running in violation of two clocks, and you thought about snitching on a fellow pumpkin?
Think twice...pick your battles carefully out here, what goes around, will eventually come back around and land directly on you. Drive your truck.
TWIC:
Transportation Worker Identification Credential
Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.
Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.
Take it easy gentlemen. I'm sure you were blindly foolish when you were his age too!
Take it easy gentlemen. I'm sure you were blindly foolish when you were his age too!
I don't remember that long ago...
Good talk.
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Eric, your trainer is actually smarter than you think. You see, you have the basics down. Now he is preparing you for solo life without him being there to hold your hand. If he saved you by telling you that you're about to pass the washout what good would that do for you? With how everything unfolded it was a great learning experience for you.
He's just grooming you for solo life out there. Unfortunately that requires some bumps that you must overcome along the way.
Keep at it and don't get mad at the guy because he knows what he's doing. Go with the flow and learn instead of critiquing someone who doesn't need it. Good luck sir.