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G-Town's Comment
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I am still trying to identify where and how TMC lied. (?)

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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1) Brandon hates fat people

2) Brandon hates southerners

3) Brandon knew TMC paid $400 in training when he signed on. He either did not do research or he accepted this. either way, he knew it before getting on a truck and accepted it.

4) brandon cant do math or he is a liar. no way did he drive 11 hours each day and only did 2000 in a week and a half. especially if tarping was off duty cause that would save his 70 clock by doing it off duty

--- my current trainee did not max out hours and drove 2900 his first week. i drove 1000. this was so i could analyze and critique his driving to help him improve. In two weeks we drove 9800 miles.

5) brandon doesnt understand that ANY company trusts the trainers judgment with regard to the students driving. if i told prime a student was horrible and didnt improve prime would get a second opinion by having him evaluated. they wouldnt say "he is good because he drove a couple thousand miles"

6) brandon is mad because TMC inquired of the trainer in an attempt to investigate the allegations in the email. i could understand being mad if his calls, emails, or concerns were ignored. but he is mad that they listened and investigated.

7) Brandon is mad that after telling TMC the truck was unsafe (trash and roaches), he was removed from the truck. im guessing they told the trainer to drop him and paid for a bus ticket back to the terminal. At that point what did he expect? he flat out told them the truck environment was unsafe and they corrected that by removing him and gave him a bus ticket back to the terminal. that is how trucking works. Did he ask about getting a rental car and driving back to TMC? Prime would have paid the car rental in this situation.

8) Brandon claims he drove 11 hours straight--- that is a flat out lie. the Qualcomm will yell at you and flash red "you are now in violation" if you drive 8 hours and one minute. It also gives us a 1 hour, 30 min, 15 min warning.

9) Brandon states he doesnt mind running hard and driving 11 hours, but complains about it at the same time. and lied about it too. IF it took him 11 hours a day to drive 2000 miles in 10 days, yeah i bet he would be fired. lol

10) brandon states training is all about truck revenue, not training. i assure you, 10 days only driving 2000 miles did not produce much revenue for the truck or TMC.the company had to pay TWO drivers, fuel, and maintenance on that rig. that truck was at a loss during those 10 days.

11) brandon's statement about not upgrading after 2 weeks confuses me. Did he expect to eliminate 3 weeks of training? if he was as confusing in his email to the fleet manager , maybe she didnt know what he wanted either.

12) brandon is someone who is never satisfied. If TMC had him stay on the truck he would complain, they took him off the truck and he complains. what did he want?

13) Brandon sounds like a grumpy old man. "Yankee...Mason Dixon Line...Boy" are not common terms anymore. Boy in my generation was a good thing...like "Thats my boy" "Fat boys" "Boyz n the hood" etc. He criticized the trainer being 30 years old. We have polticians, lawyers and other professionals who are younger. so what is the point?

14) brandon is a victim of not researching and having unrealistic expectations. he wants things handed to him for nothing. he needs to go oay a by the hour job because he will not hack a paid by performance job.

15) Brandon stated the trainer raked in the big bucks. as a trainer, i can say my company pays me LESS in training under 3000 miles per week. i make more if we run more than 3000 miles. to make the big bucks the truck must run 5000+ miles which i rarely do with students. i could make a lot more solo than training if only doing 2000 miles in 10 days in training.

im done. he is too weak and cry babyish for trucking...or even to be on a female trainers truck. i would have told him to grow a pair.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Susan D. 's Comment
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Wow can and just wow.. during training the trainee is expected to do the majority of the work so they can learn how to do the job.

Waahhhhh.. he drove 2,000 miles in a week and a half??? OMG that should have been about 4,000.

That's right. Brandon needs a grip on reality.

Villain's Comment
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Dude, get over yourself. You got to man up for just 5 weeks. The trainer is a slob, so what, so is mine. I'm in HIS truck not the other way around. In a short while I can satisfy my OCD & keep the truck (my truck) "inspection ready". You claim you don't mind running hard then complain about the driving time of your trainer. I been training 10 days. Yesterday was only the second time that I drove in daylight. I couldn't have asked for a better situation. Driving at night in the rain, fog, sharp curves, steep (to me) descents has been the kind of experience that I need. Personal responsibility,seems like it's a vanishing belief. In an industry with such a high turnover rate, becoming a veteran means something. That's why I LISTEN to them. When someone like Old School, G-Town, David R (& others) says something I listen. Cause really I don't know @!#. Like so many of the articles on here stress - hold YOURSELF accountable.

Brandon M.'s Comment
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I did not quit.I asked for a different trainer and was denied after i was initially told i could switch at orientation if your trainer isn't a good fit.As far as learning,you can't teach a grown man calling him boy and do as your told and things like that.The 1940s are long gone

Jeremy C.'s Comment
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Dude, get over yourself. You got to man up for just 5 weeks. The trainer is a slob, so what, so is mine. I'm in HIS truck not the other way around. In a short while I can satisfy my OCD & keep the truck (my truck) "inspection ready". You claim you don't mind running hard then complain about the driving time of your trainer. I been training 10 days. Yesterday was only the second time that I drove in daylight. I couldn't have asked for a better situation. Driving at night in the rain, fog, sharp curves, steep (to me) descents has been the kind of experience that I need. Personal responsibility,seems like it's a vanishing belief. In an industry with such a high turnover rate, becoming a veteran means something. That's why I LISTEN to them. When someone like Old School, G-Town, David R (& others) says something I listen. Cause really I don't know @!#. Like so many of the articles on here stress - hold YOURSELF accountable.

^^^ THIS ^^^

I'm not replying here for the fella that started this thread (that dead horse is currently getting pulverized!) But rather for any newbies (like myself) that might come across here. What Villain just posted is RIGHT ON POINT!

I just read an article on this site recently (tried to find it so I could link it here) that pretty much painted the ideal picture. Guy didn't agree with what his trainer told him, but STFU and did what he was told anyway because it was the best way to learn (and they could discuss it later when things were less tense.) When his trainer was agitated, this guy didn't take it personally because he knew the stress they were BOTH under. When they pulled up to a dock, the trailer brakes barely hit before this guy grabbed the paperwork and bounded off for the office. When they dropped a trailer, the wheels barely stopped before he had his gloves on and was headed out to disconnect the lines, etc. In short, this guy was running toward all the work because that was his place as a trainee!

I haven't even arrived at the place I hope to train, don't even know if they will keep me. But I know if I make it to the point where I board a truck with a trainer, I too am going in with quite a few expectations of my own. I expect:

  • To do most or all of the work
  • Long thankless hours and miles that will make extra money for both my trainer and the company
  • To do many things wrong
  • To not get answers or advice to anything I don't specifically request or ask about
  • To get the worst possible trainer the company has to offer
  • To get lost, turned around, and even stuck in the worst places
  • To get bad directions, bad situations, and sometimes just plain ol' bad luck

I expect all of that and a lot more. Anything different will just be a blessing!

I'm going in at the very bottom and not knowing very much of anything. If I get a CDL , well, then I'll know how to pass a road test. Other than that, the only way I'm going to learn anything is by doing all of the work, learning to deal with difficult people, and learning how to manage difficult situations. I really wish I could find that bleepin article or post that I read here recently (alas, the search box is not my friend today) because that should be required reading for anyone even looking into trucking as a career.

Again, this is written for you newbies (like myself) that might read this. We aren't owed anything more than a shot at success if we get out there with a trainer. And it's stated over and over all over this website that your success is based upon how YOU approach things. Not because of someone else's experiences or opinions, not because life wasn't fair, and certainly not because of false expectations or entitlements. They should throw out the current name of this website and change it to Personal Responsibility Trucking because that is what is so often emphasized here - and something I couldn't agree with more!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brandon M.'s Comment
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To all the people attacking me.My question is how long can you handle being called boy and your grown. You should respect people and dude clearly had no respect for himself,the truck or me.Manning up is going home with my dignity and respect.No man should be called out his name regardless periodTreat others the way you wanna be treated.Nobody here is talking about the unprofessional communication aspect.If you know a persons name then call them by that.The 1940s are over and some people still mad about that.We're either one tribe in America or not.Im back home proud I stood for something.Whats right.No man nor woman driver new or old should be addressed like their less.If the money means more to some then fine. Not me.Too many other oppurtunites

Old School's Comment
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Thin skinned truckers seldom succeed, and usually talk about their failures as if they were due to the fact that they behaved more honorably than everyone else in the industry.

That is true - I've witnessed this hundreds of times.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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To all the people attacking me.My question is how long can you handle being called boy and your grown.

The five weeks it takes to upgrade.

i had a miserable trainer. i endured, told the company after training with proof and bye bye trainer. now i have a lucrative career, paid off all my debts and have a ton of money in my 401k and savings.

No one attacked you. we were objectively looking at the information you provided with the experience behind us to know when someone is a quitter. i posted several articles about exactly this. taking personal responsibility and sticking things out.

so what if you had to put up with someone for a few weeks? seriously, if you cant put up with obnoxious people for a short period to improve yourself, you will struggle through life.j

icecold24k's Comment
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Seen this exact same post in another forum by him.. Don't think it went the way he wanted to there either.

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