One On One Help In Backing

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STJ's Comment
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Do anyone know a school that gives one on one help with backing? I’m in Atlanta, Georgia. Willing to travel if possible. I went to crst and cr England and problem was too many students to instructor.

Big Scott's Comment
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CFI will train you. They will send you to one of two schools in Missouri. Both have a good student to instructor ratio. They will give you the help you need to pass.

Bran009's Comment
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I know here at Prime after orientation you go one on one with an instructor. You might want to look into the company sponsored training programs.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Bran009's Comment
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Forgot the link for company programs

Paid CDL Training Programs

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
STJ's Comment
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I called prime. I was told since I went to crst school already that they couldn’t train me. Even though I didn’t pass test at school.

I know here at Prime after orientation you go one on one with an instructor. You might want to look into the company sponsored training programs.

CFI will train you. They will send you to one of two schools in Missouri. Both have a good student to instructor ratio. They will give you the help you need to pass.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I went to crst and cr England and problem was too many students to instructor.

You went to two different programs already? Did you quit those programs or did they send you home?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
STJ's Comment
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I was sent home from crst. I left c r England when I was told by trainer that they couldn’t train me one on one because of size of class. It was totally different from what recruiter told me

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I went to crst and cr England and problem was too many students to instructor.

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You went to two different programs already? Did you quit those programs or did they send you home?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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I left c r England when I was told by trainer that they couldn’t train me one on one because of size of class. It was totally different from what recruiter told me

That's a shame. I mean, weren't you getting the same training everyone else was getting? They've been running that program for like 20 years. I wish you would have stayed with it and trusted the process a little bit.

Have you contacted CR England to see if they will take you back? You can try the other programs but you're going to have a tough time getting into one after failing to get through two other programs already. I know that Prime, Jim Palmer, and Wil-Trans won't take anyone who has attended another program already because they feel the risk is too high.

There are plenty of other programs out there but I hope you'll do some reading here on TruckingTruth and listen to some of our podcasts before you take another shot at this. You know what they say - it's insanity to take the same approach over and over but expect different results.

Wil-Trans:

Darrel Wilson bought his first tractor in 1980 at age 20, but, being too young to meet OTR age requirements, he leased the truck out and hired a driver.

Through growth and acquisition, Wil-Trans now employs over 200 drivers, and has a long-standing partnership with Prime, Inc. to haul their refrigerated freight. The family of businesses also includes Jim Palmer Trucking and O & S Trucking.

STJ's Comment
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Currently I’m working for DOT training on dump trucks with my cdl a permit. I’d rather tough it out with them and their training than to go back to school where it’s not one on one

I left c r England when I was told by trainer that they couldn’t train me one on one because of size of class. It was totally different from what recruiter told me

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That's a shame. I mean, weren't you getting the same training everyone else was getting? They've been running that program for like 20 years. I wish you would have stayed with it and trusted the process a little bit.

Have you contacted CR England to see if they will take you back? You can try the other programs but you're going to have a tough time getting into one after failing to get through two other programs already. I know that Prime, Jim Palmer, and Wil-Trans won't take anyone who has attended another program already because they feel the risk is too high.

There are plenty of other programs out there but I hope you'll do some reading here on TruckingTruth and listen to some of our podcasts before you take another shot at this. You know what they say - it's insanity to take the same approach over and over but expect different results.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Wil-Trans:

Darrel Wilson bought his first tractor in 1980 at age 20, but, being too young to meet OTR age requirements, he leased the truck out and hired a driver.

Through growth and acquisition, Wil-Trans now employs over 200 drivers, and has a long-standing partnership with Prime, Inc. to haul their refrigerated freight. The family of businesses also includes Jim Palmer Trucking and O & S Trucking.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Well I'm glad you're in training, anyhow. Unfortunately your concern with one-on-one training is needless. Almost no one gets much in the way of one-on-one training in the beginning because it simply isn't necessary. In fact, some of the best learning you'll do is from observing others. When you can watch others to see what works and what doesn't it gives you a new perspective, especially with shifting and backing.

Once you get out on the road you'll be one-on-one with a trainer. But in the beginning it's not necessary.

Keep something else in mind. You're going to these schools without finding success, but you're in the same program where others are getting through just fine. Don't sell yourself short. The idea that you need some sort of special hand-holding is all in your mind. If others can do it, you can do it. You have to approach any challenge you face with the confidence that you're going to be able to handle it. This is trucking. It's one of the deadliest jobs in America. It takes a tremendous amount of independence and nerve to handle this job. School is the easiest part of the whole thing. If you can't muster up the confidence and nerve to get through the classroom and driving range portion without someone holding your hand then how are you going to handle it when you're on your own and things get real out there?

Don't sell yourself short. Have confidence. Face these challenges and find a way to make it happen. If you only think you can get through when the circumstances are perfect then you're not going to be around for long. Handling adverse conditions is one of the most critical roles in this job.

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