FMCSA Clarifies Personal Conveyance - "even If Laden"

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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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The new guidance reads as follows: “The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the carrier at that time.” A spokesman for FMCSA said the phrase “even if it is laden” was added for clarification.

Personal conveyance clarification

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Bill F.'s Comment
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No, that's not going to be abused at all.

(sarcastic voice mode)

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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No, that's not going to be abused at all.

(sarcastic voice mode)

LOL

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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I have already used this new provision a couple of times. It sure is useful if used properly. But I agree, it will be abused. You can bank on that being a fact.

Ernie

andhe78's Comment
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This is good, but I’ve found a lot of how personal conveyance is used depends on company guidelines and how they choose to implement the rules.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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This is good, but I’ve found a lot of how personal conveyance is used depends on company guidelines and how they choose to implement the rules.

That is a fact. It all depends on the company & how they chose to implement the new changes.

Ernie

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

N/A's Comment
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I was with one company who expected you to run on the one-hour PC when you were loaded. Usually, this was due to bad planning on the company’s part. Now we have signs in terminals throughout the country that state to only use Personal Conveyance for bobtailing to/fro lodging and meals.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Big Scott (CFI Driver/Tra's Comment
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With CFI we can use it per the law up to 50 miles or one hour. For example, you are at a shipper and run out of hours. We are able to get to the nearest safe place to park for our 10 hour break. The PC time must be used as part of that break. If there is truck parking 2 miles from the shipper and it's in the opposite direction you need to head in the morning and a nice truck stop 5 miles away, guess where you're sleeping? By the way this is old news.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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With CFI we can use it per the law up to 50 miles or one hour. For example, you are at a shipper and run out of hours. We are able to get to the nearest safe place to park for our 10 hour break. The PC time must be used as part of that break. If there is truck parking 2 miles from the shipper and it's in the opposite direction you need to head in the morning and a nice truck stop 5 miles away, guess where you're sleeping? By the way this is old news.

The law change is old news. The clarification was in the news on the 8th

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

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