Prime Inc. Future Student SLC

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Rainy 's Comment
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Me...TT legend?? omg thats funny, but ...

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Study hard stay focused and CK has my phone and email. contact me if you need help. Ive been there, and i remember what it is like. good luck!

Nolan's Comment
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Yea I am very much looking forward to seeing how it is in a truck. Have no problems sleeping in moving car as long as its somewhat comfortable.

Nolan, if you're still considering brother just jump on in! Well, like I've been told make sure all your financials and stuff are set, but other than that just do it.

You should check out Chris G's diary as well, we met up on the way here and going to start this week. So far what I've heard is Prime is a great place to train, and the instructors really want you to pass and get your stuff right. My roommate gave me the pretrip paperwork and I've been studying that, he's going to test out this Wednesday for his license. Tomorrow is orientation and paperwork so time for sleep for a 630am shuttle.

Well, sooner or later I will make the big leap, but right now I will just follow the diaries on TT :)

PT 's Comment
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Nolan, lol sounds good man. Prime is a great choice and I'm not regretting anything, except the Greyhound, if you have the funds pay your way.

Rainy, of course you're a legend! Chris G. says he missed you by a few minutes and he met up with CK. Hopefully when we meet I'll have some miles under my belt.

Day two of orientation consists of finishing up your CBT's, background interviews, and driver training videos. Interviews are basically verifying your employer background. That's about it really, I'm guessing tomorrow we hop on the simulator. I heard there's only one so with a class size of 20 plus who knows when that'll be done. Well it is what it is, can't do nothing about it. Right now just studying pretrip with the roommates paperwork, I imagine I will never forget the words properly mounted and secured in my lifetime.

Interesting tidbit, if they can't find you a trainer by end of orientation they will place you in the local training program which will count as the required 10k miles. You'll stay at the Salt Lake location and learn your pretrip and practice backing maneuvers on the training pad. Positives and negatives I guess. I really wanted driving experience, especially in winter conditions, and wanting my first taste of the open road. Flip side is, my roommate has told me that a couple students had went out and their trainers didn't go through pretrip or backing with them at all and came back as lost as Dorothy in Oz. Sooo...study that pretrip! So if you end up being stuck in SLC at the very least you'll have proper training to obtain your CDL and grab your driving experience during TNT. I had read on another thread from Rainy concerning lease ops that are in the hole using the training program as a means to get themselves back financially. If that's the case here, I'd much rather stay local and get quality training. But more than likely that is an odd case, just got to be vocal to your fleet manager and inform them it's not on the up and up during your PSD.

Time to hit the sack, good night TT.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Rainy 's Comment
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They do the pad training in sprimo too. Honestly, you will get more backing practice than if you wwnt out for PSD. I think PSD as OTR was awesome for me in the manual because shifting was insanely hard for me. Some drivers it took 2 mos to downshift. there are no reference points in real life for the backing, so going from real world to pad tesring was hard for me.

Good luck!

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
PT 's Comment
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Sorry, haven't updated the past few days, I've been real busy studying that pretrip!

Late Thursday afternoon was cleared and officially became a Prime student driver. This means you passed your drug test and issued a badge. The results came late and everyone was wondering what was going on, but our whole class got through, which I'm told is fairly rare. From here you start going out to the training pad and start going through the 4 phases of the exterior pre trip inspections.

This consists of: engine compartment, coupling, driver side fuel area, and trailer. Prime gives you a packet containing the parts and specific phrases you'll need to know to pass the CDL test. The HRTP is spot on and you should start studying that, but also remember that Prime has their own way of doing things, so some verbage might be off, but overall it's exactly the same. I passed the engine compartment and coupling on Friday, and today passed the driver side and trailer today. The instructor will call you or you volunteer once you feel you are ready and then you have to get pretty much 95-100% correct to move on to the next section.

Once you have passed your evaluation on all 4 sections, you will then be moved to the backing pad and start learning the in cab pretrip which includes the air brakes section. You will also learn how to do the backing maneuvers as well. So the faster you learn the external pretrip the faster you get to be in the truck! I was lucky in that my roommate had the pretrip paperwork and gave it to me from the first day and I was studying that all week.

Friday is also the last day your meals are paid. Take time Friday night or Saturday night after class to go to the Walmart or Winco foods down the street, about 5-6 miles straight down the road. The downside of our hotel area is that there are now stores close by within walking distance, and you'll have to rely on Uber/Lyft or ask the shuttle drivers during your Prime lunch break to take you there. They say that Fridays at 12 is the walmart shuttle, so use that to stock up on instant ramen, pb&j's, or whatever budget you have to buy food. Your com data card (basically your Prime debit card) does not get filled until Friday after 5pm, so figure that into your budget you bring with you.

If you come during winter months, plan to be COLD. The mornings are in the teens and if the sun doesn't come out and the wind picks up it is brutal. I had to go to walmart to pick up some boots and a scarf to protect your face. Prime's shop has stuff you can buy and surprisingly decent prices, they dont seem to gouge their drivers wallet, which is nice. Be prepared for your clothes to get oil marks, so dont bring your nice stuff, you WILL get down and dirty. Work gloves are also essential, as you will point/touch the parts you're inspecting. The laundry machine at the hotel is expensive, about $5 to wash and dry. At the terminal , I think its 50 cents to wash, not sure about to dry but should be similar.

Well, this post is longer than I thought, since it covers the last three or so days. Thanks for reading, will try and update as often as I can. Catch ya later TT.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

PT 's Comment
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Well now I am in my second week here at Prime SLC. So far I am learning or learnt my external pretrip inspection and in cab/air brake pretrip. Prime really places an emphasis on safety and equipment management, so when you're on the road and get pulled over by DOT and get your tractor and trailer fully inspected and pass 100% you get a bonus, $25 or $100 company and lease respectively. Be prepared to do a lot of pre and post trip on the road so that you can cover your butt if something happens to your vehicle and it's something that could have been avoided by pretripping.

I am also learning backing maneuvers: straight back, driver/blind offsets, and driver/blindside parellel parking. Haven't learned alley docking as of yet, but it seems all backing maneuvers seem to incorporate offsetting and straight backing. They teach you reference points to follow and once you get those down the maneuvers are easier to handle.

The instructors are very knowledgeable and you will definitely learn your stuff to be successful on the road. I've been dreaming about pretrip because that's what's been drilled into your head. Currently there is a truck shortage, so we've been switching from backing maneuvers on the pad and doing backing exercises on the simulator. The simulator will teach you your reference points, but it's just not the same as actually being in the truck.

Well that's all I've got for today. Time to sleep and dream of pretrip. Goodnight TT.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Nolan's Comment
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Hey PT! How is the training going?

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