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Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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Hello to all who are viewing this forum.

I have a question regarding this topic. So for those who know me from my previous forum, I had a failed pre-employment dot drug test about 2 1/2 years ago with KLLM's CDL training and never even made it to getting a permit or orientation. From those who had responded, they all gave me some wise words and knowledge on what I needed to do. And took great heed to it as well.

Before I had posted that forum, I had requested for a DAC report with Hireright earlier this month. I'm not sure if I had requested for the right forms/reports, however, I did check the box that indicated "DAC Employment History File" which includes employment history records and identifies existence of alcohol/controlled substance test history, if any, as submitted by former employers. Then a week later I had received an email from a representative as follows:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear (…………..),

HireRight received your 1/16/2019 request for a copy of your consumer reports in which you selected the option for “All Reports”. To be sure that we are providing you with the information you would like to receive, I would like to speak with you to clarify your request. Please contact me at your earliest convenience.

Our records indicate that a background report for you was recently ordered by Caterpillar in 09/2011. If this is the report you want to receive, you may simply reply to this email and we will forward that to you as soon as possible. However, if this is not the report you requested and would like HireRight to provide additional reports (if any), please call me at 000.000.0000 extension 000000 so I can confirm exactly what information you need, or you may respond to this email.

If I am unable to contact you by 1/24/2019, I will fulfill your request by sending you a copy of any report(s) provided by HireRight about you within the past 30 days. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And no, I didn't fail a drug test at Caterpillar...

So my question is, did I request for the right forms? The representative did call me a week later to clarify and she said that caterpillar was the only company that was listed. So I had cancelled the order. After doing more researching with DAC reports and how it's been said that there can still be something on those reports and to get a copy by mail/email to verify, I had re-requested for another report and check almost all the boxes and ask for all reports.

Should I be concerned and go off and do a SAP course or should I be relieved and excited to know that I'm just moments away of going off to a school and get my CDL and get OTR asap?

What do you think? I should be receiving my DAC report within 13 days and counting just to be very sure.

Thank you for reading,

Professor_Eye_M

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Professor, I'm thinking that only CDL holders have an actual DAC report. If you never had a CDL, I'm thinking your report is blank. That doesn't necessarily mean you're in the clear on that failed drug test.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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Thanks for the reply Old School. Is there a way I can request a report on seeing about a failed drug test?

Old School's Comment
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Not that I know of. Maybe others here will have an idea.

Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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Ok. Thanks Old School.

If there's anyone out there who knows, let me know ASAP. It would be very appreciative.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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Just to put this out there. I'm not trying to find a "loop hole" or a way to cover up this up. I just want to make that this is on my record or not. If so, I don't mind taking the SAP program. If not, I don't want to waste my time and money. That's all.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Every person who tells me they cant find a failed drug test in their background goes to a company thinking they will be fine but they get sent home.

You will be asked directly "have you ever failed a drug test". If you answer honestly they will want a SAP.

Lie and you will look worse for purposely lying when they find it

It doesnt matter if you can find it or not. I guarantee they will find it. they pay big money to do so.

As far as the DAC , you werent employed, therefore you had no employer to report it. so the DAC is a waste of time.

I suggest you talk to a recruiter and even the security department of the company you are interested in. It is better to be honest and have a plan than be walking on eggshells and worried.good-luck.gif

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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Thanks for the advice Rainy. So how should I approach this when asking a recruiter? Do I fill out an application and afterwards, talk to the recruiter or just call him/her and ask if they can look up and see if I do have a failed dot drug test?

I'm sorry if I'm sounding like an idiot or anything.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Let me put it this way... you DO have a failed DOT drug test.

so something like "Hi, i failed a DOT drug test 2.5 years ago when trying to apply at KLLM. I have since straightened myself out and wanted to know the best way to come to your program? What would you require?"

you can tip toe around it, but not telling them is lying cause the application will directly ask you if you ever failed a test. the only answer is yes. So why do you care if they see it now?

At Prime they do a preliminary before you come in. then they pay the big bucks for the more in depth background check. Thats when most folks get sent home. so even if it doesnt pop up now, it will.

One forum member failed a drug test at her own doctor. She signed a HIPAA form and she never thought her doctor would send that info.. the doctor did. Guess who got sent home for lying and basically shunned from the better companies due to being sent home at Prime? She then bounced to 2 other companies in two months

Just be honest. each company may require a different length of SAP too. so you need to ask.

otherwise, you will be posting next month "i didnt think my failed test would show and now only one company will take a chance on me cause i lied about it. So my choice is get into trucking at 27cpm or not at all."

Does that sound good??? nope.

good luck

CDL Failed Drug Test & Return to Duty Process

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Professor_Eye_M's Comment
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You're right Rainy. I don't want to be the one who makes that forum about HOW I WAS SENT HOME BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT THEY WOULD FIND OUT. Certainly don't want to look like an idiot and make matters worse for me. I will have to just bite the bullet and do the right thing and do what is required. I honestly don't care if I'm making $0.17 per mile or $0.24 per mile, I just need the OTR experience for at least 1 year or 1 year and some months and then from there, opportunities to make more will come. I will just have to accept a lot of NO's before getting that one YES after completing both the SAP and the Return of Duty Process.

I truly appreciate all of your kindness and advices you all gave me and will take heed to what you all highly suggest for me to do.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

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