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Old School's Comment
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I guess I'm being too technical.

No, you're being hard headed and trying to contradict people who were hoping to answer a simple question. One more time, here's what you said...

You can only be on duty 8 hours between breaks.

That's simply not true.

Old School's Comment
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By the way, I understand your point, and you are correct about having to take a 30 minute break. You are not correct about only being allowed to be "on duty" for eight hours.

BrandonCDLdriver's Comment
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You can only be on duty 8 hours before the truck won't move anymore. If I'm not right then the software in my omnitracks needs to be updated.

Sure you can go on duty as long as you want, but I'm assuming the goal is to move the truck. That would be where the 8 hours comes in.

Old School's Comment
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I'm assuming the goal is to move the truck.

That's fine, but the question was in reference to wanting to know how to calculate the hours available after eight hours in the sleeper. That includes both your eight hour clock and your fourteen hour clock. Here's the question...

how much time I should have after about 9 hours in the sleeper berth. I often wake up and my HOS tells me I have x amount of drive time and x amount of on duty time even though I haven't completed a full 10 hours.

He fully understands all about having to take a break from driving before his eight hour clock runs out. He's not asking about that at all. He asked about "x amount of drive time and x amount of on duty time." He can get more than eight hours back.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RealDiehl's Comment
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But you can't get back 9 hours. You can only be on duty 8 hours between breaks. The DOT clock will never say more than 8 hours. So if you do as the OP states he will get back 8 hours and have to take another 30 to get the rest of drive time.

At least I think so.

Hey, Brandon. Thanks for your input. But like Old school mentioned, I was trying to figure out TOTAL DRIVE time. You are right if course that you have to take a break after 8 hours. Just like after taking a full 10 hours in sleeper, you have to take a break after 8 hours even if the TOTAL driving hours are 11.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Turtle's Comment
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Welcome to the forum Brandon. We appreciate your effort to help, just try to make sure you comprehend the question before you attempt to answer.

The question was simply how many hours does he get back after 8 hours in the sleeper. We each said he gets 9.5 hours of drive time back. That's a fact. Nobody said he can drive the 9.5 hours continuously. The 8 hour rest break rule is a given. That was never a question.

RealDiehl's Comment
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Turtle hit the nail on the head there..."Continuous" is the key word.

Not to harp on it too much - and you may know this already if you're a driver - but the ELD shows available hours in four different slots: 70 hour, On Duty (14 hour), Driving (11 hour), and 8 hour. My only concern was the time showing up in the 11 and 14.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

BrandonCDLdriver's Comment
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Cool cool. As long as the OP got his answer. Yes I believe that lady was right, 9.5 hrs total.

Not sure if the OP knows but the DOT time on the qualcomm will always show the LOWER of the 4 times you have, 8, 11, 14 or 70. I realized this one morning after a nice night of sleep I wake up and I have 3 hours available. Turns out I was bumping my 70 and didn't realize it. A rude awakening for my dispatcher who had me preplanned to kingdom come.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Susan D. 's Comment
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Brandon.. neither you or your dispatcher were keeping track of your 70?!? Wow.

The other thing I noticed was the OP.. spent an excessive amount of time "on duty" while at a customer, 0748 to 0819. Does your company require you to remain on duty the whole time at a customer? If they don't, get checked in and go off duty. The minutes spared will help your 70 hour clock and could make a huge difference for you.

At my company, we're relieved of duty at a customer once we've checked in, but I'm guessing not all companies do that, so I just wanted to ask.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Keith A.'s Comment
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Throwing this question in here since it's very on topic I started in Salt Lake City this morning with a full 11/14 I got to Evanston, WY where I80 is closed with 9:13 and about 12 hours on my fourteen-- put myself on sleeper once I parked (I'm at about 1:30SB right now)-- so at 2 hours SB I should get back up to 12hr on the 14 whenever I actually start my clock again?

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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