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Tractor Man's Comment
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Why would that be? Maybe he was coming down the hill too fast or something?

Because 8 or 10 people are dead!?

The driver is responsible for the mechanical soundness and safety of hie equipment. Have you ever seen the signs at the top of a big downgrade? "BRAKE CHECK AREA AHEAD. ALL TRUCKS MUST STOP". That sign isn't there to keep the sign company in business. Do you heed that sign? I do, and am blown away by the number of trucks that just go blowing by as I am checking things out. Also, if he was in the proper gear at the top of the hill, with a properly operating engine brake, he would not have blown by those cars at that high rate of speed. Pure negligence at the very least on the drivers part.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Tractor Man's Comment
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BTW........ If you know how to properly choose a gear and use an engine brake properly, you should never have to use the brakes on any downgrade. Only the throttle to release the jake momentarily to PICK UP a bit of speed.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Kurt G.'s Comment
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Why would that be? Maybe he was coming down the hill too fast or something?

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Because 8 or 10 people are dead!?

4, actually. But yeah, people getting killed is a requirement for a homicide charge, but it doesn't explain why it's the driver's fault no matter what failed.

The driver is responsible for the mechanical soundness and safety of hie equipment. Have you ever seen the signs at the top of a big downgrade? "BRAKE CHECK AREA AHEAD. ALL TRUCKS MUST STOP". That sign isn't there to keep the sign company in business. Do you heed that sign? I do, and am blown away by the number of trucks that just go blowing by as I am checking things out. Also, if he was in the proper gear at the top of the hill, with a properly operating engine brake, he would not have blown by those cars at that high rate of speed. Pure negligence at the very least on the drivers part.

Maybe, but you don't know what the failure was, and don't know whether or not he checked his brakes at the top. Surely a driver is only responsible for mechanical problems that could have been found while doing the required inspections. So I'm wondering how the police spokesman is so sure unless he has more information than is being released.

Never mind, I shouldn't have bothered posting. I should have known I'd just get a lecture instead of a discussion.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Tractor Man's Comment
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Never mind, I shouldn't have bothered posting. I should have known I'd just get a lecture instead of a discussion.

I'm not lecturing you or anyone else Kurt. It is just my opinion on the situation. This site is devoted to the free flow of advice and opinions, as long as they are respectful. It was not my intent to come off as lecturing anyone.

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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So I'm wondering how the police spokesman is so sure unless he has more information than is being released.

They do seem to have more information than they're sharing. They mentioned interviewing a bunch of people and gathering information. Surely they'll be able to learn more about the truck's speed from its GPS prior to coming down the hill and things of that nature.

There's no telling what happened at this point. If his brakes had overheated enough to fail he would've been trailing a huge cloud of smoke and his brakes may have even been on fire. I've never heard of brakes simply failing without overheating, like from a valve issue or something. So who knows.

It did seem odd that he came barrelling in there so fast without any signs of being on the brakes at the time, and he did go to the right to try to avoid the traffic as long as possible. It's just impossible to say without knowing a lot more about the circumstances.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Never mind, I shouldn't have bothered posting. I should have known I'd just get a lecture instead of a discussion.

Feeling sensitive today are we? He wasn't lecturing you in the least. He was just answering your question and carrying on a respectable conversation.

As my dad used to say, toughen up buttercup.

Jim H.'s Comment
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Probably driving while distracted, ya know, like the guy who's driving while making a video.

Army 's Comment
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Trucker was flying whatever the cause, it’s sad when life is lost so needless.

Tractor Man's Comment
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As my dad used to say, toughen up buttercup.

Thank you Brett.

Jamie's Comment
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As far as has been able to tell he lost his brakes coming down off the Rockies. Part of the reason it was so bad was there was stopped traffic from an accident earlier in the day. Otherwise he might have been able to make it to more level ground and get stopped. Not saying as defense but it's hard to say if he was a super trucker or he just really screwed the pooch coming down the hill.

I seen some comments saying he passed a run away ramp shortly before the crash. Not entirely sure, I haven't seen looked into it.

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