Tone Deaf?

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Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
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Some of y'all know i drove in my hubby's shadow (and thank ya for that...) How am i DQ'd for being extremely tone deaf? I'm not trying to be Billy Joel and have Kevin Spacey scream the harmonica.... which my hubby can play. I'm EXTREMELY tone deaf. HOW? G'town, OS, Brett too busy.. anyone????

Just really?

I'll listen to all yall's feed back as i cry my face off.

PHOENIX???

Army 's Comment
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So you are saying you don’t qualify because of this?

§391.41(b)(11), requires that a CDL applicant be able to hear a forced whisper in the better ear at not less than five feet, or that an applicant does not have an average hearing loss in the better ear greater than 40 decibels at 500 Hz, 1,00 Hz, and 2,000 Hz with or without a hearing aid. Feb 1, 2013

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Susan D. 's Comment
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Is your hearing deficit correctable with hearing aids?

I'm a little confused. Did you fail your DOT physical?

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Anne, I didn’t know they tested for tone deafness, just the whisper test. Can you be more detailed about what happened?

LDRSHIP's Comment
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So you are saying you don’t qualify because of this?

§391.41(b)(11), requires that a CDL applicant be able to hear a forced whisper in the better ear at not less than five feet, or that an applicant does not have an average hearing loss in the better ear greater than 40 decibels at 500 Hz, 1,00 Hz, and 2,000 Hz with or without a hearing aid. Feb 1, 2013

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All you need is the ability to read lips and great peripheral vision. LoL

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Tractor Man's Comment
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All you need is the ability to read lips and great peripheral vision. LoL

Cha Ching! Patrick wins the COTD!

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Phoenix's Comment
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TT Wiki - DOT Hearing Test

Anne, square your shoulders, hon, and let's see if we can all find a way through...

Did you fail the forced whisper test? Was an audiometry done? Did the doc explain why tone deafness disqualifies you?

As far as I understand it, congenital amusia, or tone deafness, means that although a person hears sounds, some of those sounds have no variance in pitch because their brain does not communicate the variance. Some are, some aren't. In your case, I'm assuming many aren't. A hearing aid may not help with this, because you'll hear sounds, just not the correct sound, or actual sound. However, I fail to understand why this would disqualify a driver... you'll hear sirens and horns, they just might sound differently to you.

Sometimes exceptions are given... perhaps you could apply for one? Iimagine you would need to prove that your ailment would not affect your ability to drive safely, or put others in harm's way.

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I'm baffled. Need more input!

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rick S.'s Comment
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So you are saying you don’t qualify because of this?

§391.41(b)(11), requires that a CDL applicant be able to hear a forced whisper in the better ear at not less than five feet, or that an applicant does not have an average hearing loss in the better ear greater than 40 decibels at 500 Hz, 1,00 Hz, and 2,000 Hz with or without a hearing aid. Feb 1, 2013

Pretty sure DOT doesn't require you to be able to "carry a tune".

Did you fail the "forced whisper test"? Have you been tested by an audiologist (tone tests)?

Audiologists use a series of tones at different frequencies and amplitudes (volumes), to determine hearing acuity. One of the keys to the reg is the "40dB in the BETTER EAR". Which means you can be nearly deaf in one ear, as long as the "good ear" doesn't have more than a 40dB loss at the stated frequencies - and these can be compensated for with hearing aids. Kind of like - you can be blind as a bat, but as long as you're better than 20/40 with corrective lenses - you're good to go.

So the question is: have you been tested by an audiologist (ear doctor)?

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
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Yep, failed the DOT physical..Forced whisper in LEFT ear.... fail. She would NOT do the right ear. She put a tuning fork on the left side (which I didn't realize I'm actually DEAF in.) Fail.

I'm going to an EENT or whatever it's called next month. I am deaf / tone deaf or just DEAF in my left ear. I did NOT know that. I do now.

Thanks for all the replies, y'all.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Tractor Man's Comment
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I'm going to an EENT or whatever it's called next month

I believe they are called "Expensive Doctors"!

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