Cannabis Testing, Swift, NYC Ban On Cannabis Testing

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PackRat's Comment
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No hope in Dope!

Donna M.'s Comment
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I was in Arkansas last week in a very small truck stop and they had all kinds of Cannabis oils and pills. They even had urine u could purchase. I was shocked I’m from Georgia we don’t have that junk for sell. However I was more shocked it was in a truck stop.

Big T's Comment
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I got a chapstick in a care package for Christmas. I didn't think anything about it until i needed some and my inner voice told me to check the ingredient list and one of the ingredients was cannabis sativa. Thank God i didn't use it.

Michael B.'s Comment
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DP, seriously? We know it doesn't affect you when your not on it, just like all drugs and alcohol dont affect you when your not on them. But first of all, your opinion does not matter!!! There is no way to tell if you are currently on it or if you smoked it the day before just like the other drugs. If they show in your pee test then you are on them. Alcohol is the only one with a current available test to prove if you are DUI.

Actually and factually, to correct you, marijuana was initially banned, not for the reason you stated but because Mexican migrant workers were bringing it in with them for personal use and white politicians found use by brown and black farm workers unacceptable as they were considered "undesirables" at the time. Outlawed for purely racial reasons.

You can spout the "free country" malarkey all you want but facts are we are a free country with laws and rules which must be followed by all people for us to remain a free country. Probably best if you take the legalise weed for truckers now campaign elsewhere as you will not find any sympathy for your cause on this site even by those with no objections to marijuana being legalized.

Again, YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING. The laws mean everything, like them or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I am wondering how trucking companies get away with discrimination for those who use prescribed medications?

I find it a little odd that there are adults who want to drive an 80,000 pound rig on our highways but can't understand why you would not be allowed to do so while using any medications or substances that may inhibit your cognitive function. You simply must have complete awareness and a sharp, clear mind in order to perform any safety-related job.

If you need further explanation then you simply don't have enough cognitive function to do a safety related job to begin with. So declaring this to be discrimination is basically self-incrimination. You should pursue a job that does not allow you to put anyone else at risk. You're dangerously simple minded.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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she got popped for a dirty urine teat and sent home.

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Whew!!! Glad I'm not the only one that laughed at the typo. Presuming, that is, that Rainy didn't actually INTEND that spelling...

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Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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What a hilarious stream of commentary..

If we are in a free country, then we can use what is legal here, what is inexpensive, what works, what is natural, what is our choice-- when we are not working. Alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis-- period.

Thanks so much for your time.

DP, life is about choices. Choices have consequences. Your opinion may be enough to sway the FMCSA and other regulatory bodies into a change of policy and rule. It may happen. But, it won't happen in the time I have left remaining as a driver, I will be willing to wager.

Bottom line, your position has merit, because as a citizen you have a voice. You could be bold, and try to become the case that goes to the Supremes for adjudication. After a conviction, and an appeal at the Circuit level. And a denial at the District level. And that still doesn't guarantee that the Supremes will grant certiorari to your case ( the rate of petion for all certiorari success in 2017 was only about 3%, attorney submitted cases are about 6%). Or, you could focus on not raging against the machine and avoiding circumstances that would lead you into feeling the need or desire to use a regulated substance for relief of your medical symptoms. The rules are the rules, at least for the timeframe in which we work.

Good luck as you decide which course of action to take.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

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Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Bruce K.'s Comment
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Curmudgeon wrote: "Whew!!! Glad I'm not the only one that laughed at the typo. Presuming, that is, that Rainy didn't actually INTEND that spelling..."

No, I don't think it was intentional. LOL! And I for one, hope Rainy doesn't start correcting her typos. They are highly entertaining. And I think it's just one of the many reasons we all (especially JYK9) loves her so much.

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Diver Driver's Comment
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It's simple really..... You say that it's safe to drive while smoking weed.... so you're telling us, and expect us to believe that weed doesn't alter you in anyway... hmm... if that was the case, why do you even smoke it ? (Or eat it) it's because you get HIGH !! Just like people drink and get drunk... ah **** it.... I'm not wasting any more effort on this. People who have a brain cell know what's up

Jrod's Comment
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I am wondering how trucking companies get away with discrimination for those who use prescribed medications? My qualification for Swift was just reversed since I explained to the recruiter that I used marijuana under Doctor's advice for just a few days. She said in THREE YEARS I could re-apply! Excuse me but my driving record on my job (which is not CDL but is a driving job, 75 hours a week...) is still perfect and my service record is also the maximum, which is rare for the amount of work I do. So it's not a safety issue directly and it's legal in my State, it's under a Doctor's direction and it was a very brief usage. Now I cannot earn a living and support my family? What country is this again? I'll be able to pass a urine test within a week or two and a hair follicle test within about two more months. At that time, I cannot work for Swift. I've heard Swift is not the best outfit but it's quite a slap in the face.

For those who are not aware, NYC just banned testing for cannabis for most jobs. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/nyregion/marijuana-drug-testing-nyc.html This does not stop Federal DOT testing but does inhibit it for anything but certain medical caregiver, construction and a few other jobs.

If you had already started working there, and started training, it will go down as a "Refusal to drug test". There are many prescription drugs that doctors prescribe that will also disqualify you from driving, not just The Sticky-icky/Mary-Jane/Wacky-Tobacky/etc...

If you went there knowing you couldn't pass a drug test, you basically wasted their time and money, and say what you want about trucking companies - but don't waste their time and money.

If they put it down as a "refusal/failure", you'll have a hard time finding ANY reputable company that will hire you for 3 years or more.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

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