Cannabis Testing, Swift, NYC Ban On Cannabis Testing

No hope in Dope!

I was in Arkansas last week in a very small truck stop and they had all kinds of Cannabis oils and pills. They even had urine u could purchase. I was shocked I’m from Georgia we don’t have that junk for sell. However I was more shocked it was in a truck stop.

I got a chapstick in a care package for Christmas. I didn't think anything about it until i needed some and my inner voice told me to check the ingredient list and one of the ingredients was cannabis sativa. Thank God i didn't use it.

DP, seriously? We know it doesn't affect you when your not on it, just like all drugs and alcohol dont affect you when your not on them. But first of all, your opinion does not matter!!! There is no way to tell if you are currently on it or if you smoked it the day before just like the other drugs. If they show in your pee test then you are on them. Alcohol is the only one with a current available test to prove if you are DUI.

Actually and factually, to correct you, marijuana was initially banned, not for the reason you stated but because Mexican migrant workers were bringing it in with them for personal use and white politicians found use by brown and black farm workers unacceptable as they were considered "undesirables" at the time. Outlawed for purely racial reasons.

You can spout the "free country" malarkey all you want but facts are we are a free country with laws and rules which must be followed by all people for us to remain a free country. Probably best if you take the legalise weed for truckers now campaign elsewhere as you will not find any sympathy for your cause on this site even by those with no objections to marijuana being legalized.

Again, YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING. The laws mean everything, like them or not.

I am wondering how trucking companies get away with discrimination for those who use prescribed medications?

I find it a little odd that there are adults who want to drive an 80,000 pound rig on our highways but can't understand why you would not be allowed to do so while using any medications or substances that may inhibit your cognitive function. You simply must have complete awareness and a sharp, clear mind in order to perform any safety-related job.

If you need further explanation then you simply don't have enough cognitive function to do a safety related job to begin with. So declaring this to be discrimination is basically self-incrimination. You should pursue a job that does not allow you to put anyone else at risk. You're dangerously simple minded.

she got popped for a dirty urine teat and sent home.

Whew!!! Glad I'm not the only one that laughed at the typo. Presuming, that is, that Rainy didn't actually INTEND that spelling...

What a hilarious stream of commentary..

If we are in a free country, then we can use what is legal here, what is inexpensive, what works, what is natural, what is our choice-- when we are not working. Alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis-- period.

Thanks so much for your time.

DP, life is about choices. Choices have consequences. Your opinion may be enough to sway the FMCSA and other regulatory bodies into a change of policy and rule. It may happen. But, it won't happen in the time I have left remaining as a driver, I will be willing to wager.

Bottom line, your position has merit, because as a citizen you have a voice. You could be bold, and try to become the case that goes to the Supremes for adjudication. After a conviction, and an appeal at the Circuit level. And a denial at the District level. And that still doesn't guarantee that the Supremes will grant certiorari to your case ( the rate of petion for all certiorari success in 2017 was only about 3%, attorney submitted cases are about 6%). Or, you could focus on not raging against the machine and avoiding circumstances that would lead you into feeling the need or desire to use a regulated substance for relief of your medical symptoms. The rules are the rules, at least for the timeframe in which we work.

Good luck as you decide which course of action to take.

Curmudgeon wrote: "Whew!!! Glad I'm not the only one that laughed at the typo. Presuming, that is, that Rainy didn't actually INTEND that spelling..."

No, I don't think it was intentional. LOL! And I for one, hope Rainy doesn't start correcting her typos. They are highly entertaining. And I think it's just one of the many reasons we all (especially JYK9) loves her so much.

It's simple really..... You say that it's safe to drive while smoking weed.... so you're telling us, and expect us to believe that weed doesn't alter you in anyway... hmm... if that was the case, why do you even smoke it ? (Or eat it) it's because you get HIGH !! Just like people drink and get drunk... ah **** it.... I'm not wasting any more effort on this. People who have a brain cell know what's up

I am wondering how trucking companies get away with discrimination for those who use prescribed medications? My qualification for Swift was just reversed since I explained to the recruiter that I used marijuana under Doctor's advice for just a few days. She said in THREE YEARS I could re-apply! Excuse me but my driving record on my job (which is not CDL but is a driving job, 75 hours a week...) is still perfect and my service record is also the maximum, which is rare for the amount of work I do. So it's not a safety issue directly and it's legal in my State, it's under a Doctor's direction and it was a very brief usage. Now I cannot earn a living and support my family? What country is this again? I'll be able to pass a urine test within a week or two and a hair follicle test within about two more months. At that time, I cannot work for Swift. I've heard Swift is not the best outfit but it's quite a slap in the face.

For those who are not aware, NYC just banned testing for cannabis for most jobs. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/nyregion/marijuana-drug-testing-nyc.html This does not stop Federal DOT testing but does inhibit it for anything but certain medical caregiver, construction and a few other jobs.

If you had already started working there, and started training, it will go down as a "Refusal to drug test". There are many prescription drugs that doctors prescribe that will also disqualify you from driving, not just The Sticky-icky/Mary-Jane/Wacky-Tobacky/etc...

If you went there knowing you couldn't pass a drug test, you basically wasted their time and money, and say what you want about trucking companies - but don't waste their time and money.

If they put it down as a "refusal/failure", you'll have a hard time finding ANY reputable company that will hire you for 3 years or more.