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midnight fox's Comment
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My impression is your experience and what I'm saying aren't actually contradicting each other though.

Visualization as a learning tool has scientific basis, provided it's done right. I haven't implied visualization could ever be a substitute for gaining actual experience backing, only that it can be a big leg up when you're starting to learn, so your mind already has some sense of what it'll see and what to do with that information.

The kind I'm talking about are nothing more than synchronized feeds from the overhead drone and the four mirrors and the windshield (or the side window if the driver has turned to look out it) and the steering wheel. It's like climbing inside that die-cast tractor-trailer, or an experienced driver's truck.

It either backs in right or it doesn't, and the cool thing is you see everything exactly as you would if it were you in the seat doing it right. I consider that a big leg up because then when you do try to do it, you come into it with a clearer picture of all the visual cues and what they mean.

PackRat's Comment
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If you make it that far, you'll be in for a big shock the first time you get to back into a parking spot between two objects. YouTube isn't going to be there.

midnight fox's Comment
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If you make it that far, you'll be in for a big shock the first time you get to back into a parking spot between two objects. YouTube isn't going to be there.

Who says it won't be there, I'll have my cell phone in one hand.

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Joe S.'s Comment
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Wow didnt mean to start abig "tado" wasn't in no way thinking of learning any type of valuable skill from you tube. I meant more about how he talks about how to run like dont sit around the truck stop for 13 hrs when your 10 is up time to roll. How the pay works Monday to Sunday just stupid little stuff us as none drivers dont know or understand. I do understand most of your comments are not directed at me. Thanks again for your truth in answering.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Midnight Fox, from my point of view you are close but you don't get the cigar. I teach backing in a contract school (not available to the general public) but the skills are the same for anybody.

You can watch videos both from the driver's or drone's point of view, you can watch other videos on YouTube, or read books. But it's not going to come together till your butt is in the driver seat and the mirrors are adjusted for you and you let off of the brakes.

The visualization you need is to watch how the trailer moves in the mirrors; and your brain can process this to make your arms turn the wheel just enough so that the back end of the trailer goes where it's supposed to.

I don't use these words in coaching at all, but this is my goal for my students.

The problem with taking information from YouTube is that it's unfiltered. You have no idea what a "teacher's" qualifications are. There is one guy who says he's a Swift instructor. His idea is to drop a glove at a certain point in your setup and use it as a marker. Swift uses no such "marker" technique in their schools.

YouTube is useful for knowing how things can get done (your "leg up"), but you'll only learn truck backing by holding the steering wheel.

Finally, your point:

I consider that a big leg up because then when you do try to do it, you come into it with a clearer picture of all the visual cues and what they mean.

Even full videos of a perfect backing really can't help this much. Too much is going on when you're in the driver's seat.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Marc Lee's Comment
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My impression is your experience and what I'm saying aren't actually contradicting each other though.

Visualization as a learning tool has scientific basis, provided it's done right. I haven't implied visualization could ever be a substitute for gaining actual experience backing, only that it can be a big leg up when you're starting to learn, so your mind already has some sense of what it'll see and what to do with that information.

The kind I'm talking about are nothing more than synchronized feeds from the overhead drone and the four mirrors and the windshield (or the side window if the driver has turned to look out it) and the steering wheel. It's like climbing inside that die-cast tractor-trailer, or an experienced driver's truck.

It either backs in right or it doesn't, and the cool thing is you see everything exactly as you would if it were you in the seat doing it right. I consider that a big leg up because then when you do try to do it, you come into it with a clearer picture of all the visual cues and what they mean.

These are (IMHO) opinion the best backing videos out there. I like the lines he shows on the screen/pavement as well as the multiple views.

Don't know how much it will help but I thought they were worth the time.

Better than listening to Terminal Rats whine from inside their employer's $100,000+ cabs, anyway!

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Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

PackRat's Comment
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If you make it that far, you'll be in for a big shock the first time you get to back into a parking spot between two objects. YouTube isn't going to be there.

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Who says it won't be there, I'll have my cell phone in one hand.

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Good luck. Done with this one.

G-Town's Comment
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Ditto here...

I was right he is our latest Know-It-All.

Read what Errol wrote...notice how those advocating the learn by video approach are not experienced drivers?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Ditto here...

I was right he is our latest Know-It-All.

Read what Errol wrote...notice how those advocating the learn by video approach are not experienced drivers?

Those that "have it all figured out already" when they arrive on the TT site actually do not.

Biggest difference between reality and YouTube videos? The videos you can rewind, pause, and watch again. Plus, there's never a bad outcome for the person watching. Most of the time out here, there is one opportunity to get it correct. Lots of chances for mistakes. Backing exercises are always risky.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Joe S.'s Comment
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Please don't hold this thread against me!!

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