72 In A 55 Speeding Ticket

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Dave's Comment
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So I’ve been awaiting approval on WIAO funding to go to trucking school. Back on Labor Day I was pulled over for going 72 in a 55 on I35 in Dayton, OH. I’m just now realizing that this charge will screw me out of getting on with most companies. Here’s the kicker. I was offered to take a remedial course to make it like the ticket never happened but it costed more than the actual ticket so I declined, not realizing it’s be such a hindrance. Any advice or input on my situation would be appreciated. Any companies that’d hire me in the Dayton area with this charge?

Susan D. 's Comment
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17 miles over the speed limit? How irresponsible. That's exactly what trucking companies are going to think.. that and you are not safe enough to be driving an 80,000 pound vehicle.

Most companies like to see 3 years clean driving history. You realize that's reckless driving, right?

If you were waiting for a federal grant, that means you were planning on attending a private school. We highly recommend company sponsored schools. My oldest daughter got a similar speeding ticket and claimed she wanted to drive a truck. She filled out the application on here and got an offer from PAM Transport and I cant remember who else, but she did get 2 offers. She claimed she wanted to go to Roehl and would wait until it came off her record. She instead got pregnant, got more reckless driving citations and continues to be a major pain in my..... with her irresponsibility.

So, what I recommend, if you REALLY want to drive a truck to suck it up and take what you can get and prove you can become a safe, reliable, conscientious driver for a minimum of one year, more doors will open. Don't waste your money or our tax dollars on cdl school please.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Joseph L.'s Comment
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So I’ve been awaiting approval on WIAO funding to go to trucking school. Back on Labor Day I was pulled over for going 72 in a 55 on I35 in Dayton, OH. I’m just now realizing that this charge will screw me out of getting on with most companies. Here’s the kicker. I was offered to take a remedial course to make it like the ticket never happened but it costed more than the actual ticket so I declined, not realizing it’s be such a hindrance. Any advice or input on my situation would be appreciated. Any companies that’d hire me in the Dayton area with this charge?

I have to say when I read Susan D's response I couldn't help but think for a few seconds she came off a little harsh , but then not only did I find myself agreeing 100% with her response, I thought it was a little soft. However this forum is not about insulting people or ripping them apart over poor and sometimes really stupid choices. I have to admit that when I come off the road I am paranoid about driving. I had been in a truck that could do 67 mph max. I came home one time, was out driving keeping with the flow of traffic when I realized I was doing almost 60 in a 45 mph zone. I had been watching my speed keeping it between 45-50. I started to slow down and as I did this police vehicle came up on me, I my first thought good bye CDL However the police vehicle whipped around me and speed off, a few seconds later some spots car blew pass the police vehicle, the sports car went straight and the police car went left or right. The last time I went home for the first few days I would not drive and for probably a week after unless my wife was with me I wouldn't drive. David S, a lot of companies are going to flat out turn you down because of the ticket now before you get depressed thinking it's the end of the world good bye future truck driving job, I would focus on getting the ticket handle and maybe start with a local delivery job, something that doesn't involve a CDL I say for the next year forget about getting a CDL. Get a courier job, running supplies, heck do Uber or Lyft (if they will hire you) spend the next year improving your driving record. While as Susan D points out most companies want at a clean driving record going back at least three years, I think if you're able to go a year and avoid any more tickets, a few more companies and even CDL schools might be willing to take a second look at you. Best of luck

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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The CDL schools will take you and your money and not care you wont get a job.

i wrote an article on exactly this...

What You Need to Know Before CDL School

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Joseph L.'s Comment
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I just read the article "what you need to know before CDL school" I unfortunately have meet two people who lost their CDL license for irresponsible choices. The first person was talking on their cellphone holding up it up their , when they rolled into some weight station. I can't remember where it was at, but the person told me they came to stop and still talking and someone said "it's okay I can wait till you finish your call" the driver said they turned and there a state D.O.T inspector looking at them. The driver got a ticket for the cell phone and got pulled in for inspection. While they was dealing with the inspection, their phone rings it's the company. "Hey Driver take your load to this location and leave the truck and trailer there. We are going to have another driver take the load and a second driver to get the truck, By the way you need to remove all personal belongings, good luck with your future endeavors" This person said it took them a year and a half to get a new driving job, they felt the ticket and being terminated where a bit extreme for simply using a cellphone while driving. I ask the person how long they had been driving and they said five years. I told them they should have been fired , after five years you know what the consequences are or least you should.

The second person was this guy in Washington , young kid 21-23, guy had just gotten his CDL. Had been driving for a year for UPS. Gets off work and decided to go have a cold one with his buddies. He his rule was one beer and one beer only. However one beer turn into two and two into five, plus shots. The next morning he wakes up in a holding cell. Apparently after leaving the bar he decided it would be a good idea to demonstrate how to do donuts in a parking lot where several police vehicles and officers where. He had no memory of it. Needless to say he missed two days of work, he called a cousin whom he asked the person to contact several people including UPS. Two days after his release he has a meeting with HR whom informed him he was longer with the company. Not only did he lose his job and CDL, he lost the right to drive a regular car, the system came after him. The difference between him and the phone person, he owned up to his mistake, he had gone to several classes on drinking and driving, was trying to make amends. He also confess that he knew getting a second chance at driving was going to be a long shot

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Susan D. 's Comment
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I don't mean to be harsh at all.. I was simply putting it out there how trucking companies (your FUTURE employer and the insurance companies) will look at it.

Absolutely private schools will take your money and you aren't guaranteed a job.. hence the dont waste our tax dollars comment.

If you go to a company sponsored school, your GUARANTEED a job if you successfully complete school, get your cdl , and complete their company training. It's really a win-win situation.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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The difference between harsh/mean and REAL - can cut a fine line around here sometimes.

But the REALITY IS - it may have been more expensive to AVOID THE CONVICTION - but in the long run, your INABILITY TO WORK IN THE INDUSTRY, coupled with the INCREASE IN CAR INSURANCE PREMIUMS would have made it a less expensive option in the long run.

And even if your "private school" is a GREAT ONE, and has a lot of companies that hire "new graduates" that draw from it's pool of students - even those companies are going to be reluctant in the EXTREME (IF AT ALL) to take on a newbie with a MONTH OLD OVER 15 citation - even in a personal vehicle.

You can look, but you are not likely to find anyone willing to take this on. INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS DICTATE HIRES - and you are considered HIGH RISK now.

I would PASS on the trucking school for now. Even if you get your CDL - you will be UNHIRABLE for long enough after you get it, to require you to GO BACK FOR TRAINING ANYWAYS.

Most companies want to see "recent grads" within 30-60 days from course completion (90 at the most), otherwise, your training is STALE and they're going to want to see you back in school for a refresher at the least. The 2-3 years it's going to take for this recent citation to be "old enough" to warrant consideration for a hire - and you are going to have to go back to school - or come in to a company program the same as a non-CDL holder and go the full route.

I went to a county Vo-Tech (paid for out of my own pocket) a decade ago, and circumstances continue to prevent me from getting out there (location, health, financial responsibilities - if it ain't one thing/it's another). Even though I have a sparkling clean MVR , have kept my PTX (Passenger, Doubles/Triples, HazMat & Tanker + Motorcycle) endorsed CDL, TWIC & Med Card golden - I would still have to come into any company and go through their full training (which I would INSIST ON ANYWAYS).

"Wasted Tax Dollars" is just that - if you use a .gov program to pay for a school where your odds of ACTUALLY GETTING TO USE your training in the immediate future (before you need to be retrained anyways) - it's a waste of OUR PAID TAXES. Governments PRODUCE NOTHING - all $$ spent is TAKEN FROM US.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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I don't mean to be harsh at all.. I was simply putting it out there how trucking companies (your FUTURE employer and the insurance companies) will look at it.

Absolutely private schools will take your money and you aren't guaranteed a job.. hence the dont waste our tax dollars comment.

If you go to a company sponsored school, your GUARANTEED a job if you successfully complete school, get your cdl , and complete their company training. It's really a win-win situation.

Nope, you aren't harsh., you are the nice one. I am the harsh one

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The driver with the cell phone should have been fired. that is not extreme and many companies would do the same.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Cornelius A.'s Comment
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Using a mobile device while operating a CMV is an extremely severe violation.... its weight on your safety score is a 10 compare that to the severity of someone going 11-14 miles over the speed limit that that carries a weight of 7. Alot of insurance companies will require that driver to be fired before mighjt agree to insure a smaller carrier.

392.82(a)1 Using a hand-held mobile telephone while operating a CMV 2 0 10

392.2-SLLS3 State/Local Laws - Speeding 11-14 miles per hour over the speed limit. 2 0 7

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Dave's Comment
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Didn’t realize I wasn’t receiving updates via email for new responses lol. Didn’t mean to ignore you all.

Thank you all for your honest responses. I really feel like I am being looked out for here on trucking truth.

So I talked to a few lawyers and here it is. I can pay a flat fee of 750 to request to withdrawal my guilty plea and if that goes through we would be able to work on the prosecutor to reduce the charge or, at best, remove the points it or on my license. I realize the points on my license aren’t what is hindering my job opportunities. But if the charge were reduced it would still state on my mvr that I was cited for speeding and that it was changed to whatever the reduced charge would be. Anyone with experience with this stuff that has some input, I’d greatly appreciate it. Would I still be SOL if it still said I was pulled over for speeding even with the indication of it being reduced?

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

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