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Susan S.'s Comment
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I was thinking the same thing. Why fire someone and retrain someone else. I do believe he was trying to be safe. But he should have had better communication so they could have worked with him. But i can see him getting angry for wanting to push him past his clock.

I don't know enough about this yet, but I'm gonna stay tuned. It seems I can learn from this. Breakdowns, weather, etc seems like par for the course. Doesn't make sense to fire a guy and have to re-train another.

PJ's Comment
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I too would like to hear more of the beginning story. I bet there is alot more to the entire story.

I can usually read between the lines pretty good. I agree bottom line of a perceived bad attitude which rears its head throughout the post is why he was invited to leave.

The part of chaining up confusses me. If I am understanding he took 2.5 hrs to chain and was taken to task for it, but yet they have a company policy that says park it if conditions are so bad as to require chains. Makes no sense to me.

Sometimes we need to remember in this life attitude usually dictates how we are treated by others, and we usually are our own single worst enemy.

PackRat's Comment
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Sometimes we need to remember in this life attitude usually dictates how we are treated by others, and we usually are our own single worst enemy.

Especially when we are brand spanking new.

PJ's Comment
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Too many people get the idea in their head they are in charge. I really do not understand that. The employer is the boss, the employee follows orders and completes tasks. Employer pays employee. Ummmm how is that so hard to understand.

Unless your signature is at the bottom of that check, your the employee.

We used to call it the tail trying to wag the dog. Never has worked very well that I am aware of

Twitch's Comment
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That's what I'm tryin' to figgure out. How much is actual unfairness and how much is self-generated. I've been fired before and I've done the firing. I know that if I didn't like someone's attitude, I would "take advantage" of something like being late, etc, to let them go... however, It was nothing personal. To me, they only had a "bad attitude" if that attitude were hurting our business. (Of course when I was canned it warn't fair, LOL ). Unless the company is putting ppl through it, like a trial by fire, it doesn't make sense to me that they would be unreasonable, given the apparent shortage of drivers. In a world overrun with drivers, then the unfairness would actually make more sense, cause they would be thinning the ranks, leaving only their miracle workers. .. if there is such a thing. .. and thats all I know about that.

JuiceBox's Comment
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I don't think there is much to be confused about here. He didn't handle certain situations as the company would expect him too and was fired for it. He does play the victim rather well though.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Twitch is figuring this out:

How much is actual unfairness and how much is self-generated?

Actual unfairness: 0%

Self generated: 100%

The vast majority of stories like Bernie's are written by people who, for one reason or another, didn't figure out how trucking works. The training is complicated, and if you don't pay attention, your lack of knowledge will get you "chewed up and spat out". The people in the office don't have time to give special attention to people who didn't learn in training.

Then, as Bernie did, you blame everyone but yourself. Did Bernard admit to not knowing how load dispatch worked? What pre-trip involves? There are other forums where trucker failures whine about mistreatment, being "forced" to break HOS rules and such. Here at Trucking Truth we don't pass out Kleenex® to these people.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Moe's Comment
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Reading through all of this has my head spinning, wow man. Granted I am not a driver yet. Let me just focus on getting the CDL first and then cross these sorts of bridges later I guess lol

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Twitch's Comment
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Reading through all of this has my head spinning, wow man. Granted I am not a driver yet. Let me just focus on getting the CDL first and then cross these sorts of bridges later I guess lol

Here, too! I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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