PC To Go Park

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TCB's Comment
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If my 14 expires while at shipper , am I allowed PC to go park at terminal or to go scale load?

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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Def not to scale unfortunately. Nearest safe haven for parking if the shipper doesn't allow parking on site. About to do this right now in Michigan with only 45 min left in my 14.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Chief Brody's Comment
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According to the regs, any PC is logged as "off-duty."

FMCSA Personal Conveyance FAQ

By the way the nearest safe parking for PC should not be confused with "safe haven" which is a technical term for certain HAZMAT materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Joseph I.'s Comment
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It will depend on the company you work for. Some do not allow it at all. My company does and I will use to get to next good parking area with restroom. I also will PC to a grocery store if needed during 10 or 34 hour break but am not suppose to further the load towards destination.

Pete E Pothole's Comment
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The way I understand it is you dont use PC to reach a safe haven, you violate then add a note saying you were headed to nearest safe haven. Because whether you are advancing the load or not you still cant be off duty and moving the load. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Noob_Driver's Comment
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The way I understand it is you dont use PC to reach a safe haven, you violate then add a note saying you were headed to nearest safe haven. Because whether you are advancing the load or not you still cant be off duty and moving the load. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Probably because we both work at Millis, this is how I understand it as well. You can PC empty or bobtail to a parking spot or a grocery store, restaurant etc but not under a load. We're allowed to violate within reason to a safe haven but it must be the nearest stop and it cannot be a terminal for us.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Wild-Bill's Comment
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Sounds like each company does it a little different. I’m surprised there isn’t one official way the DOT wants it. For us we have to call and get permission. They send us a note on the pc with specific permission to go to the nearest truck stop. then we log on duty followed by break which creates a “time stamp” for safety. When we arrive we log post trip and call safety they then turn the time between on duty and post trip and edit it as off duty PC.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

PackRat's Comment
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Now remember on anything, just because it's a federal rule, law, or guidance, individual companies can set their own policies, too.

PJ's Comment
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The rule is very clear what is allowed. It is companies polices that cause the confussion.

ID Mtn Gal's Comment
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Recently I parked in a 4 hr truck parking zone near Sumner WA. About 6 hrs later had someone knock on the door. Cop said he recorded me as being longer than 4 hrs and I had to move. I asked if I could finish out my clock and he said if I didn't move I would get a ticket and be towed.

So called the office and was told to go Off Duty and PC, putting "Required to Move in comments. Then go find a place to park....as if there is anything at 0400 :-P

Talking with some guys, don't think it was a cop but a Security guy at a nearby business embarrassed.gif

Laura

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