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Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Brqd did you move from Salt Lake City recently?

You remind me of one of their famous residents who used to stop by and offer his wisdom.

Wild-Bill's Comment
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I’m glad you mentioned that Bobcat. I was reading this and the swift post and wondering when he was going to mention that he drove trucks in the army for seven years...

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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I thought he was from Boise?

Rob D.'s Comment
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Troll? Likely

Todd? Doubtful.

midnight fox's Comment
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Seems weird. Decisions not to hire almost always come from upper management anyways. 99% Recruiters will hire any driver they can get approved.

In this case the failed applicant was rejected by the recruiter because they knew they wouldn't be able to get him approved. The lawyer characterized it as a violation of the defendant's constitutional right to due process. I mentioned it because the OP in this thread is also a failed applicant.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I volunteer to take him with me to the port sometime. I’ll make sure we’re picking up an unfamiliar piece of equipment with every sort of issue possible, then let him figure out how to load and secure it in searing heat with no shade and a limited amount of time. Then we can determine if he will make it in the trucking industry. I completely agree with Old School when the OP says he might not make it in trucking.

Diver Driver's Comment
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I heard that asshat on KC Phillips, when the suit went to the top court.


Name a single "business" or hell... a mechanic who doesn't have to purchase thousands of dollars of gear to get into business. The only legit thing is that you no longer have to go through arbitration. As a diver, I was responsible for purchasing a 5k diving helmet and various other safety and personal gear. It was also my sole responsibility for the maintenance, and safety checks (required by the employer yearly) Oh.. and 8500.00 in schooling, and yearly physicals.

Everyone knows that lease and LP plans are geared to make money for the company.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Obviously, the courts have said, no matter what contract words you use. You cant break laws and make money off peoples backs like that. Its a win for Truck Drivers

And the courts are not always right which is why we have appeals and overturns. The Dred Scott Case is a prime example of how the Supreme Court is sometimes wrong.

I still applaud those who suffered and fought. They knew it was illegal, they got Justice in court. No matter what the trucking industry tried to shove down their throat, and the cronie capitolists who enforced these illegal activities.


This is NOT about company drivers who didn't get paid. This is about lease ops who are ticked they couldn't handle running a business and failed. Now they are whining and crying.

Prime's first line of the contract states "You agree to become an independent contractor and will not be an employee of New Prime Inc." It goes on for about 50 pages of explaining the costs and responsibilities of a lease op, and most do not read it. Oliviera stated he had no idea the truck was not his to keep which means he didn't read the contract.

If anything, this case proves that leasing is not better than being a company driver.... and that some people are idiots.

If he was successful in his mind, he wouldn't be suing and many lease ops feel they are successful and they don't sue.

With your permit, you do not get paid to deliver and guess what.... I signed a contract for that too.



Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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I hit submit instead of preview.. sorry.

Anyway.... These types of rulings have HURT drivers, not helped them. Want proof? California is a prime example. Because California enacted it's laws about gig workers, residents of California are no longer offered a lease or lease purchase through Prime and many other companies.

Although I am against leasing especially for new drivers, it can allow certain freedoms that people want... Such as pets, passengers, home time or routing. Despite Prime allowing pets, there is a weight limit as well as a limit on passengers and ages. As a lease op you have more options in this area. I also know a few who created their own dedicated routes by basically rejecting all but a certain type of load. It works for them and they were happy

The CA law cause chaos for these drivers because now those drivers are told:. 1. Become a company driver. 2. Buy your own truck and run under your own authority. 3. Move to another state. 4. Quit

Sounds great doesn't it? So Commie-fornia strikes again with its laws that take rights and choices away from people and some people who have never even started a truck think it is a great idea. Now that NJ and other states are considering the CA law, I am no longer offered the leasing option... So some idiot who couldn't read his contract took MY rights and options away and the OP is applauding that????

Something else that is interesting.... The settlement means nothing. They settled why???? Because unlike what the OP stated.... The court DID NOT make a final decision. The case was settled to avoid a final court ruling that would create a precedent. Without that precedent, these cases will continue to go on for years. So there is nothing nationally that was done.

Add to that... CA liberal media fought for the gig worker law, not realizing it would not only affect truckers and Uber but also any freelance workers. The writers are now limited to only 35 articles a year, the hair dressers were affected.... Work is being limited in fields... Therefore there is now a migration of workers leaving CA.

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."


Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.


Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.


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