3 Dot Non Recordable Accidents

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Anthony F.'s Comment
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Hello all I started my trucking career last October and was terminated for frequency of accident may 25, 2021 I am currently looking for another driving position but no one I've contacted is willing to give me another chance and I understand why. I will list accidents below so everyone can get the complete picture of my situation, any help will be greatly appreciated. 1. During training I attempted to make a u turn at a truck stop and bent the driver side panels behind the sleeper happened around December 12, 2020

2. I was in Dunn, NC at a loves while I was pumping fuel another truck pulled into the fuel isle from the wrong side his trailer was partially in my way, after waiting about 30 min I decided to try nd squeeze past his trailer so I could deliver my load. While getting through I grazed a fuel guard. Yellow mark on front passenger side bumper

3. In pontoon Beach, IL I was attempting to back into a spot and hit another truckers mirror.

All accidents I called dispatch immediately and reported them, all accidents I was at fault, all accidents dot nonrefundable

Charges on my DAC report are 1. Accident - turning 2. Accident- struck a fixed object 3. Accident- property damage

Again any help is greatly appreciated, I understand I was wrong and really jus need another chance. Thank you

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Errol V.'s Comment
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The idea that these accidents were non-"anything" is the problem in your understanding. They may not be reportable to the DOT , but you see them on your DAC. A hiring company looks on the DAC rather than whatever records the DOT has on you. I hired onto a company during the COVID shut down. I "forgot" some minor fender-bumpers like you had. The recruiter kindly reminded me of all of them. She even reminded me about a yellow post "oops" like you had. Since they were over a period of two years, that was OK.

Three accidents in 6 months. That's not OK, even for a rookie.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Anthony F.'s Comment
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Thx 4 ur input

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Hi, Anthony & Welcome to Trucking Truth!!!

Care to share what company you were with?

Might have a few "2nd chance" suggestions; but Errol V. is correct entirely.

Thanks!

~ Anne ~

ps: Why in the heck did your trainer allow you to make a U turn? Some companies, that's immediate termination, right there.

pps: Just trying to help!!

Anthony F.'s Comment
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Sure, I was with Wilson Logistics....and towards the end of the training me and my trainer operated as a team so he was sleeping in the back. Yes Errol V is correct, I'm not disputing the fact that I'm wrong and I messed up or that I even deserve another shot. I was just trying to use the terminology that companies have been using so that anyone who is reading this and has a helpful suggestion they have a complete picture of what is really going on. I'm aware that most of the comments posted are going to be like Errol Vs' comment, expressing how bad I messed up, but the reason I'm posting is to see if I have a future in trucking cause it seems like I don't, so if u have any "second chance companies" I would appreciate it.

PackRat's Comment
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Just start applying everywhere. Maybe some company will hire you.

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Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Sure, I was with Wilson Logistics....and towards the end of the training me and my trainer operated as a team so he was sleeping in the back. Yes Errol V is correct, I'm not disputing the fact that I'm wrong and I messed up or that I even deserve another shot. I was just trying to use the terminology that companies have been using so that anyone who is reading this and has a helpful suggestion they have a complete picture of what is really going on. I'm aware that most of the comments posted are going to be like Errol Vs' comment, expressing how bad I messed up, but the reason I'm posting is to see if I have a future in trucking cause it seems like I don't, so if u have any "second chance companies" I would appreciate it.

Just start applying everywhere. Maybe some company will hire you.

Apply For Truck Driving Jobs

Yep, indeed. Fill out that first & foremost! (Not sure if that app goes to Western Express, or not... so:)

1.) Western Express

2.) Dutch Maid Logistics

3.) CR England

4.) CRST (teams only.)

Wish you the best, man. Seems Wilson may be 'less forgiving' than other starter companies, as well...unfortunately for you. Some would probably put you back out with a trainer for awhile, to 'keep their investment' in you.

~ Anne ~

ps: Let us know what yields for ya!

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Wow kinda harsh for 3 itty bitty mistakes lol

My 2nd Co...broke the cab extension and bracket u-turning in a Loves....Next pm the shop replaced it DM was told and ok with it. He blew out a few tires 1 brand new trailer hit sumpin n bent rim didnt fess up when I asked.duhhhh he hit a curb someplace. Another trailer I did a walk around on driver swap found 2 tires drug on asphalt big worn fresh spots= 2 replaced. Think in all he cost company 6 tires he screwed up.....No penalty. Worst he is pulling into a small flying j wasnt paying attention, cut the turn tight hit left front of guys headlight cracking fender, middle of our trailer. He Got a ticket for that, but later got it changed to impeding traffic (in a parking lot hmmm)

He then tries to line up at a loves ,he bumped into the shops big yellow pole. Which was tilted from prior bumps.

That cracked our lower bumper valance lucky it was tilted or our headlight woulda been tore up!!

Last I heard he was to do use cpap after a physical dont think he still driving .....But all the cost n damage he did, never got fired. Go figure that 1 Told him quit tearin up the damn truck!! Jeeeze ( a 2019 too)

Ok I don't like draggin out stories haha peace out

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Leeva804's Comment
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Hello all I started my trucking career last October and was terminated for frequency of accident may 25, 2021 I am currently looking for another driving position but no one I've contacted is willing to give me another chance and I understand why. I will list accidents below so everyone can get the complete picture of my situation, any help will be greatly appreciated. 1. During training I attempted to make a u turn at a truck stop and bent the driver side panels behind the sleeper happened around December 12, 2020

2. I was in Dunn, NC at a loves while I was pumping fuel another truck pulled into the fuel isle from the wrong side his trailer was partially in my way, after waiting about 30 min I decided to try nd squeeze past his trailer so I could deliver my load. While getting through I grazed a fuel guard. Yellow mark on front passenger side bumper

3. In pontoon Beach, IL I was attempting to back into a spot and hit another truckers mirror.

All accidents I called dispatch immediately and reported them, all accidents I was at fault, all accidents dot nonrefundable

Charges on my DAC report are 1. Accident - turning 2. Accident- struck a fixed object 3. Accident- property damage

Again any help is greatly appreciated, I understand I was wrong and really jus need another chance. Thank you

Will Western Express take you? I gotta say three incidents in such a short time like the ones you mentioned are minor and it’s crazy companies will not hire you. I’m not sure about this but I believe after 1 year experience you can work around finding a job with multiple accidents as insurance companies are willing to take you. My boy got hired no issues with NFI with three minor accidents, but he had one year.

Within the first year I believe you’re screwed by most mega’s because they can’t hire you because of insurance. I could be wrong.

I bet if you look on craigslist you’ll find a good job. I would even take a class B job if it will pay the bills seeing as those accidents won’t really be gone until three years.

But for real don’t hit nothing else. Try your best to think before you act. Watch bone head truckers and see how truckers every week have accidents in the most insane ways and learn.

Your second option is owner operator but you’re likely not fit to take up your own with no proven experience.

I’m definitely saving to own my truck outright these companies have to many rules for me. Luckily with what the gig I landed recently I’ll have my truck paid off in three years to avoid these carriers who will ding you for minor accidents.

You can say a driver is basically non-hire-able but everyone deserves to have a fair shot at getting better. You didn’t hit anyone or injure anyone. It’s amazing how mega’s will do everything to stop a rookie from even improving. There is countless stories on here and truck report of drivers who had three accidents or more only to land a job through luck and never had a accident again.

But these mega’s will literally make that most will give up by their standards. But I’ll say this OP no more accidents man. You gotta nail it down if you land a new gig.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
IDMtnGal 's Comment
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Within the first year I believe you’re screwed by most mega’s because they can’t hire you because of insurance. I could be wrong.

But for real don’t hit nothing else. Try your best to think before you act. Watch bone head truckers and see how truckers every week have accidents in the most insane ways and learn.

Your second option is owner operator but you’re likely not fit to take up your own with no proven experience.

I’m definitely saving to own my truck outright these companies have to many rules for me. Luckily with what the gig I landed recently I’ll have my truck paid off in three years to avoid these carriers who will ding you for minor accidents.

You can say a driver is basically non-hire-able but everyone deserves to have a fair shot at getting better. You didn’t hit anyone or injure anyone. It’s amazing how mega’s will do everything to stop a rookie from even improving. There is countless stories on here and truck report of drivers who had three accidents or more only to land a job through luck and never had a accident again.

But these mega’s will literally make that most will give up by their standards. But I’ll say this OP no more accidents man. You gotta nail it down if you land a new gig.

Leeva804,

Even tho you've been on the road just over a year, you still have a LOT to learn.

You are wrong about the megas. Most of them are self-insured, so incidents are covered by them. Kearsey had a number of accidents and she is still with Prime. Also, your comment about "mega’s will do everything to stop a rookie from even improving", is just plain bunk. So, they invest all that money in trainees just to keep them from becoming drivers?? Are you for real?? That's just the stupidest comment I've heard. You need to get more experience out here!

The 2d option of being an OO is not an option for him at all. He still has more learning to do. IF he could get insurance, it would be insanely high.

You are wrong again. He WAS given 2 chances and then he had a 3d accident. What we don't know is his attitude with Safety at Wilson. While it is good here on TT, we don't have their side of the story. Something happened to cause Wilson to cut their losses and let him go.

But these mega’s will literally make that most will give up by their standards. ...this makes no sense.

Laura

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

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