So Am I Hired?

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Lukas M.'s Comment
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I sure as hell dont know if I am or not. Cr England is dumb. I am literally counting down the days until my contract is up.

I'm seriously thinking of just taking my CDL and running far far away. They say I'm hired but I'm not really? What kind of bull**** company is this? If they cant be straight up with me now how am I suppose to have any confidence in them? I dunno if I can do 9 months here.

Then again what if I leave now? Before my road training ends? I heard that I'm not liable for my contract if I leave now.. my buddy from class did that yesterday.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Banks's Comment
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I have no idea what you're talking about.

"You're buddy from class"

Are you talking about CR England's school? If you are then yes, you're hired as long as you get through training. It's not that complicated.

As for whether or not you'll be liable, what does the contract say?

You need to calm down. You're going to have a stressful career if something this small makes you this angry.

Don's Comment
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You are not even through your training with C.R. England, but "they are dumb and you are ready to leave"? Not a good sign if you are already complaining and ready to bail after a few weeks. You are not officially hired until you complete your road training, which is part of the training program. No matter what you say "your Buddy did," if you quit, you will be liable for the cost of your training. How long was your CDL school and road training; a few weeks?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Lukas M.'s Comment
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Well it wouldn't suck if the trainer wasn't just a straight up *******. And I don't think it's too much to ask to know if I'm hired yet. They said I was then I got told I wasn't till I finish training.

I gotta deal with this guy for three weeks. I in no way mind that hes a hard ass and I actually like that but it's no excuse to be a total and absolutely ****ty to deal with individual. Already feels like I'm in prison. I LOVE the driving btw and I want and need this job seriously badly.

PJ's Comment
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It looks like your not focusing on what is important. You need to concentrate on the training, not other extetnal things. If you need the job as badly as you say, you can make it through 3 weeks.

Your buddy from class decisions have no consequences for you. Sounds like you don’t know what the contract says you signed. I would recommend you read it closely before making and decisions.

Old School's Comment
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I want and need this job seriously badly.

Lukas, we have to assume you are very young. We don't have any information to support that theory, but your ways of expressing yourself give us reason to believe it. Do you have a history of quitting jobs because you don't like them?

Getting started in trucking is tricky. In fact it can be downright difficult. When the first thing that comes to your mind about your training is that your company is "dumb," then you are in for a seriously difficult time establishing yourself as a trucker. You will be a lot better off if you take the approach that says, "I am a total noob. I am dumb. I know nothing about trucking. It is kicking my tail right now, and I need to figure out how to man up and make this happen. I need this job. I have a family to support."

There is a very common reason we see rookie drivers quitting during training. Here it is: They think they know more about how the company should be training them than the company knows.

That is where you are right now. You are looking for a way out. You think you made a mistake and chose a "bad" company. How would you know that? You don't know anything about this yet. The only thing you know is that you are unhappy, uncomfortable, and feeling like you are being taken advantage of. You are listening to advice from your buddy in class who already threw in the towel. Does that sound like the kind of guy you want to take advice from? Winners don't take advice from losers. Your friend quit. He couldn't handle being a trucker. He's the last person you should be talking to.

If you went through C.R. England's training to get your CDL , you are responsible for your contract.

You agreed to work for them for a certain period of time if they helped you get your CDL. Quit splitting hairs over the exact moment you are hired. You signed a contract and they did their part of the deal. That means your word and honor are on the line now. Can you keep your word? Can you tough it out and take care of your commitments? Will you do what it takes to support your family?

Make it happen Lukas. We will help you if we can. But right now you need a big dose of maturity to take control of your thoughts. You can be a quitter if you want. That's the easy way out. You can also toughen up and learn how to be a trucker. That's what most of us did. We committed to this career and now we are reaping the rewards. Have you got what it takes? You haven't showed us much yet to indicate you do. We are all hoping you can make it. To be honest, we would be really proud of you if we saw you showing the slightest inclination toward success.

Forget about the name on your truck doors. Forget about which day you got hired on. You are the only one who will enable yourself to rise to success, or succumb to failure. I can promise you C.R. England wants you to succeed. They are going to a great deal of trouble to make a driver out of you. We know training is hard. It's real hard. You are trying to establish a rewarding career. Did you honestly think it was going to be rainbows and unicorns? Toughen up man. Take the bull by the horns and show you've got something in you that can rise to the occasion.

I am anticipating a good report from you one day. I hope I am not waiting in vain.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Mikey B.'s Comment
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I sure as hell dont know if I am or not. Cr England is dumb. I am literally counting down the days until my contract is up.

I'm seriously thinking of just taking my CDL and running far far away. They say I'm hired but I'm not really? What kind of bull**** company is this? If they cant be straight up with me now how am I suppose to have any confidence in them? I dunno if I can do 9 months here.

Then again what if I leave now? Before my road training ends? I heard that I'm not liable for my contract if I leave now.. my buddy from class did that yesterday.

Oh, golly gee...a whole three weeks with the old meanie...Jesus Christ man, grow up. Grow a set of your own and stop relying on borrowing your buddy from classes set. We have a name for people like your buddy that are unhappy and try to bring everyone around them down with them....terminal rats. And we have a name for those that listen to them and follow....failures. You want to grab your CDL and run? By all means do it, with an attitude like that we don't need you out here anyway. You don't need confidence in the company, they are an established, very successful company with thousands of employees, WTF are you? They need confidence in YOU, after all, if you make the 3 whole weeks of training there are giving you the keys to a $150,000 truck to haul upward of a million dollars of freight and have to trust YOU to get it there on time AND safely.

I'd bet your trainers comment would be totally different. Something like this, "damn boss, I dont know if this guy's gonna make it, he whines and cries all the time, complains about me and gripes about the company, has some kind of fixation on his good buddy from class. Yeah boss, talks about leaving just like his buddy, he won't pay attention to the road or anything I tell him, he has gotten me so mad a few times I've actually yelled! He expects me to be comfortable enough to sleep while he is driving yet he acts like a blind 8 year old, yeah boss, I don't know about this one, he may be better off taking his CDL and running far, far away."

So, this has probably angered you and you probably want to log off and not come back, because that's the easy thing to do...or....you can man TF up and stop crying, apply yourself, stop running the company down, never mention your loser buddy from class again and get through training. What's it gonna be, crybaby terminal rat or successful professional driver?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Well it wouldn't suck if the trainer wasn't just a straight up *******. And I don't think it's too much to ask to know if I'm hired yet. They said I was then I got told I wasn't till I finish training.

I gotta deal with this guy for three weeks. I in no way mind that hes a hard ass and I actually like that but it's no excuse to be a total and absolutely ****ty to deal with individual. Already feels like I'm in prison. I LOVE the driving btw and I want and need this job seriously badly.

Lukas;

Stick it out.

After your training, do your contractual months, and MOVE ON ! Heck, you may even like it there when you solo out, enough to stay!!! It happens ALL THE TIME. Read the 'diaries' section on here; you'll see evidence of that.

You'll ALSO READ that MANY TRAINEES feel like their training is a type of 'boot camp,' or type of 'prison.' It's NOT just you. It's part of the 'indoctrination' to see if you DO have the grits, grime, brawns, and brains and b***s to handle this profession.

Wish you well, man.

Trucker's wife of 20 years; I've seen it. I know it 2nd hand. It gets better !!!! This career paid our HOME off.. .it's DO'ABLE!

~ Anne ~

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Don's Comment
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If you "want and need this job seriously badly," then you are going to need to change your attitude. In your first two posts, you have 1. Stated "you feel like you are in prison already" and "the company is dumb," and 2. "You cannot deal with a (big meany) trainer" who BTW is trying to train you in three weeks how to be a safe driver so you are able to go solo. I bet most of us would love to hear your trainer's side of this story. No doubt, we would get a true indication of what is occurring. I seriously doubt the company told you that you "were hired and then (you) weren't." I bet the truth is you either misunderstood the recruiter, or assumed you were hired when you were accepted into their program, or were not paying attention to what was explained during the start of training. Naahhh, that could not possibly be what happened. No company hires a student until after they complete the CDL program, pass their tests and obtain their CDL and then completes road training. If you don't grow up quick and change your attitude, that job you "want and need seriously bad" may get pulled out from under you. You need to realize that you are being tested by the Company every day. Contrary to your arrogant opinion, they are not "dumb." They deal with arrogant, no-it-all students everyday. If a student driver is causing issues, that company will cut it's losses and the student will still be responsible for training costs if they were removed from the program due to fault of their own. Read your contract again. STOP listening to other students or drivers BS (and that's what your "buddy's" story is), and take responsibility for your success. YOU are the only one responsible for whether you succeed or fail.

Well it wouldn't suck if the trainer wasn't just a straight up *******. And I don't think it's too much to ask to know if I'm hired yet. They said I was then I got told I wasn't till I finish training.

I gotta deal with this guy for three weeks. I in no way mind that hes a hard ass and I actually like that but it's no excuse to be a total and absolutely ****ty to deal with individual. Already feels like I'm in prison. I LOVE the driving btw and I want and need this job seriously badly.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
MrZ's Comment
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I sure as hell dont know if I am or not. Cr England is dumb. I am literally counting down the days until my contract is up.

I'm seriously thinking of just taking my CDL and running far far away. They say I'm hired but I'm not really? What kind of bull**** company is this? If they cant be straight up with me now how am I suppose to have any confidence in them? I dunno if I can do 9 months here.

Then again what if I leave now? Before my road training ends? I heard that I'm not liable for my contract if I leave now.. my buddy from class did that yesterday.

Let me give it you straight from a different perspective. Being a trainee and on probation happens in many, many other industries as well. I have been fortunate to have worked in education and law enforcement. And guess what? Both professions have a probationary period where you can be let go. Take law enforcement as an example: after 26 weeks of academy training , you are then paired up with a field training officer for several months, on a probationary period. How about education? Yup, you guess it. Many school districts will have you on a 12-month probation, and they can let you go if you are not cutting it. Why? Because you are a dumb rookie that is capable of causing mistakes. And believe me, you will make many mistakes along the way. And guess what? In education, law enforcement, and trucking mistakes can be deadly. Especially in law enforcement and trucking. So my advice is to grow a pair, learn and move on. It’s temporary. If you cannot hack three weeks because the trainer is meanie and hurts your feelings, well, then trucking is not for you.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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