An Absolute Nightmare.

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Bird-One's Comment
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I’m not even sure where to start. Here’s the situation. A few years back I was involved in a single vehicle rollover accident. Just myself and my helper. Nothing else involved person or property. The Hino straight truck I was in had the brakes go out as a direct result of the drive shaft detaching from the vehicle. Till this day I have no idea what caused it. This all happened on a off ramp. I should also mention no tickets or citations given. Report says no fault determined.

Probably 6 or 7 months after that I applied for a job with ABF. I get a letter from the third party company that did the background that it was reported on my mvr that quote “drugs and alcohol present” I was immediately denied employment understandably. I immediately go to the dmv I get a court purpose mvr. Guess what? No mention of said claim. I request a copy of my dac report no mention. I chalked it off as a major mess up by that the company because I soon after got hired by my currently employer.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I decided to pull the trigger on applying to Old Dominion Freight Line. Interview goes great road test goes great. Things seemed to be flowing nicely. Till I get a call hearing the same thing the previous background company said. This company was different than the previous. I immediately start fighting this tooth and nail.

I get another copy of my mvr. Clean. I get a copy of the crash report from Illinois state police. No mention of drugs and alcohol. I get a copy of my psp report. Yep no mention. I get a copy of my DAC report. Any guess? Yep no mention of drug or alcohol.

I’ve been on the phone for easily 12 hours on the past 3 days. Most of that time on hold. I call the dmv. They said they have no idea what I’m talking about. I call the background company they tell me to call the dmv. I call Illinois State Police they tell me they have no idea what I’m talking about.

The biggest kicker? I called the background company asking them where they are getting this info from? Why can’t I see it? What are they seeing that I’m not or can’t see? Their response? “Your mvr” but it’s not anywhere on my mvr or anywhere anywhere. They tell me dispute with the dmv. But I can’t dispute what the dmv can’t even acknowledge exists.

I’m at a complete loss over it. So I will be getting a lawyer here within the next day or 2. Which is completely foreign to me. I have no idea what else to do. How can such verbiage exists when there is nothing supporting it? Meaning no drug test or sobriety test or anything was given. If drugs and alcohol were present in a cmv I would have been arrested. I’ve never even been in cuffs.

Anyways that’s that If anybody feels there must be more to this story I wouldn’t even get defensive about it because I’m still in disbelief over it myself.

Anybody have suggestions. Rob. D? Rick. S you out there buddy?

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Sounds like a royal pain in the ass, if it not showing up I'm not sure where they see it.. unfortunately a CDL lawyer might be your best bet.

Hopefully you can get it resolved quickly.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I wonder if maybe, just maybe something is coming up wrong in their search? I had a situation a few years ago where my license was temporarily suspended and I almost wound up in cuffs because an individual at the BMV transposed a number wrong and it automatically suspended my license.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Bird-One's Comment
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Ya know I called on that this morning. I asked them to read back to me verbatim what they were saying. They read back the accurate date and time of the accident. Read what I saw on my mvr. But than went on to say the drug OR alcohol present. Not and present like I’ve been saying. But they were and are still at a lost as too why im not seeing this information or seeing nothing that would support such a claim.

I was trying not to be snarky with them but I asked them if they could tell me where on the mvr it had my dui conviction. They said it doesn’t I said right. So how can drug or alcohol be present? I would of left the scene in cuffs. They didn’t have an answer for that.

They said it could be someone at the scene could of been intoxicated? I said that makes no sense why would anybody be a designated driver than? I spoke with them a few hours ago and they are going to send me the document that says the drug or alcohol present. Because I have yet to see a document. When I get that I’m taking it straight to the dmv.

There has to be a mistake somewhere. Somewhere, somebody knows something. The law doesn’t work this way. Can’t say hey Robert committed murder but he never went to court, prison and we have no proof at all but we’re going to put it on his record anyways.

I wonder if maybe, just maybe something is coming up wrong in their search? I had a situation a few years ago where my license was temporarily suspended and I almost wound up in cuffs because an individual at the BMV transposed a number wrong and it automatically suspended my license.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Man, Bird One . . .

I've been thinking on this for ya, too. If this was on MY guy's record, i'd be going 'Bat Crap' on his behalf, too.

Before you pay $100's for an attorney, could YOU pull a comprehensive B/G check yourself, from HireRight, Intelius, Spokeo, or one of the like??? They're 'reasonably' priced, for a one'timer.

Wondering (out loud again) if one of our O/O's could run a B/G check on you... like a pre hire , and let you know what 'they' see but you can't?

This IS INDEED maddening.

~ Anne ~

Pre Hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

PJ's Comment
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Your doing what you can at this point. Your best case is taking their doc to dmv and have them clean up the problem.

I can’t run background checks, the company I am leased onto do those for me when needed.

I wish you luck with the situation.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Joseph G.'s Comment
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Mistaken identity is my bet. Do you have a common name? I'll bet there is someone with a similar name and their info got attributed to you.

My father and I have the same name and i constantly have to deal with this stuff. Usually with the credit reporting agencies.

One time they sent me his American Express Gold Card in the mail.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Mistaken identity is my bet. Do you have a common name? I'll bet there is someone with a similar name and their info got attributed to you.

My father and I have the same name and i constantly have to deal with this stuff. Usually with the credit reporting agencies.

One time they sent me his American Express Gold Card in the mail.

One time they sent me his American Express Gold Card in the mail.

That's a KEEPER, haha! (Nah, wait for the Platinum... or Black..!)

LoL~

~ Anne ~

Bird-One's Comment
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Hey Anne, unfortunately one of the companies you mentioned is in fact the one conducting my background report. Dealing with them initially was awful. But dealing with their dispute department has been much better over the past 24 hours.

I’ve called both the dmv and the background company no less than a dozen times a piece this week digging for info. The background company says call the dmv. Dmv says they have no clue. At this point I’m just going to keep starsky and hutchin and wait for that document and take it to the dmv like PJ mentioned since it appears that is the source of information.

To your point Joseph yes I did consider that because it so happens myself and my father have the same name. But the thing is they are claiming the drugs or alcohol is specifically linked to the accident. And the accident date is accurate. But I haven’t completely ruled that out.

There are a ton of discrepancies I have came across. One for example is from what I’ve seen everything is coded. The background report I got has a box that says “Illinois dmv specific messages” it has the wreck and the code for it. Than next to it it just says alcohol or drugs present. No kind of coding. Illinois has very specific coding for that kind of an offense.

That’s the only place I’ve actually seen alcohol or drugs present. But no documents supporting where it is coming from. Well see what the next 24 hours bring.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I'll give you credit for fighting so vigorously, a lot of people would have just moved on.

Not sure it will help, but did you request your Illinois driving record abstract? You can do it online or at the DMV. It might have something different than the court purpose MVR since there was no ticket or conviction.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

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