Training With Dry Van Even Though I Applied For Flatbed. Is That Normal?

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Thanks for responding Robert. The terminal manager did tell me their flatbed fleet needed help and they were trying to grow. He was even excited that I applied for the flatbed division. The thing with the DM is the communication. I understand that I'm new and he's not sure if I will stay long enough to get on a personal level with. It's more of him not being communicative. The vague answers he gave me left me with more questions. I'm not a real social person but when business or work is involved I expect communication to be a priority. Im assuming that's his personality rather than him being rude. Thanks again and stay safe on the roads

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One thing I think about when I hear people say that they feel a person is being standoffish is whether or not such people are in some way contributing to the person being standoffish. I am not saying that your DM failing to communicate effectively is your fault. It is a fair question to ask if you might be able to do something to help improve the communication. One reason this came to mind in reading your post is that you mentioned that you are not a real social person. If you have not already, it might be worthwhile to think through your interactions with your DM and be as analytical of yourself to see if there are ways that you can improve your own communication. Ultimately, there is only one thing that you can control in this situation and that is your own thoughts, behavior, etc. Do your best in communicating with your DM and things should work out sufficiently. No different than any other industry, trucking is a matter of people communicating with people. It sounds like you have done well in making yourself highly desired by choosing to work in a division for a company that desires to expand that division.

I wish you the best and look forward to reading about your future success.

Kerry, I disagree with everything you said. I owned a landscaping business before training for my CDL A. Trust me, I know how to communicate in a professional manner. I'm confused how you came to your conclusion that I might need to analyze my actions. Not being a very social person doesn't mean I'm not cordial.

But thank you for your wishes, I appreciate it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

TwoSides11's Comment
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Explain his definition of "shadow another flatbed driver."

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Lol now you see what I mean. He told me shadow like I knew what that was...

It's following behind another flatbed driver in my own truck going to the same stops and he will teach me how to tarp and strap a load.

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Will you be paid your normal CPM as a solo driver while shadowing or is it still training rate of pay? Have you asked this question?

Yes, I will be paid my normal CPM while I shadow the other driver. I did ask him that question. And I had to ask that question, he didn't mention it. After he told me about shadowing the driver he said see you tomorrow. I would think that would be something he would tell me instead of me having to ask. But what do I know...Do you still think its the communication on my part that needs to be analysized? He's showing patterns of not being descriptive and giving vague answers. I hope that changes in the near future. I even asked him to give more in depth answers. I don't feel as if he's intentionally being rude or disrespectful though. I'm just concerned right now.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Kerry L.'s Comment
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Thanks for responding Robert. The terminal manager did tell me their flatbed fleet needed help and they were trying to grow. He was even excited that I applied for the flatbed division. The thing with the DM is the communication. I understand that I'm new and he's not sure if I will stay long enough to get on a personal level with. It's more of him not being communicative. The vague answers he gave me left me with more questions. I'm not a real social person but when business or work is involved I expect communication to be a priority. Im assuming that's his personality rather than him being rude. Thanks again and stay safe on the roads

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One thing I think about when I hear people say that they feel a person is being standoffish is whether or not such people are in some way contributing to the person being standoffish. I am not saying that your DM failing to communicate effectively is your fault. It is a fair question to ask if you might be able to do something to help improve the communication. One reason this came to mind in reading your post is that you mentioned that you are not a real social person. If you have not already, it might be worthwhile to think through your interactions with your DM and be as analytical of yourself to see if there are ways that you can improve your own communication. Ultimately, there is only one thing that you can control in this situation and that is your own thoughts, behavior, etc. Do your best in communicating with your DM and things should work out sufficiently. No different than any other industry, trucking is a matter of people communicating with people. It sounds like you have done well in making yourself highly desired by choosing to work in a division for a company that desires to expand that division.

I wish you the best and look forward to reading about your future success.

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Kerry, I disagree with everything you said. I owned a landscaping business before training for my CDL A. Trust me, I know how to communicate in a professional manner. I'm confused how you came to your conclusion that I might need to analyze my actions. Not being a very social person doesn't mean I'm not cordial.

But thank you for your wishes, I appreciate it.

There is nothing wrong with self-introsoection. I am not sure how you took what I said as negativity. I never said that you don't know how to communicate professionally.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Kerry L.'s Comment
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Explain his definition of "shadow another flatbed driver."

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double-quotes-end.png

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Lol now you see what I mean. He told me shadow like I knew what that was...

It's following behind another flatbed driver in my own truck going to the same stops and he will teach me how to tarp and strap a load.

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Will you be paid your normal CPM as a solo driver while shadowing or is it still training rate of pay? Have you asked this question?

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Yes, I will be paid my normal CPM while I shadow the other driver. I did ask him that question. And I had to ask that question, he didn't mention it. After he told me about shadowing the driver he said see you tomorrow. I would think that would be something he would tell me instead of me having to ask. But what do I know...Do you still think its the communication on my part that needs to be analysized? He's showing patterns of not being descriptive and giving vague answers. I hope that changes in the near future. I even asked him to give more in depth answers. I don't feel as if he's intentionally being rude or disrespectful though. I'm just concerned right now.

I always take time to analyze my end of any communication when things are not going as I would like. Even if I am not at fault, I look for ways to improve because the goal shouldn't be to be right. The goal should be to have effective communication. If that means that I am pulling more than my weight in the matter, so be it.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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