Do People Still Cheat Logs Now That They're Electronic?

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Chris P.'s Comment
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I was reading Brett's book, and he makes it sound like successful truck drivers cheat their logs. Is that still the case now that logs are electronic. If so, how does one cheat?

Thanks.

G-Town's Comment
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No.

Chris P.'s Comment
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No.

That's good. I didn't want to have to cheat logs.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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No.

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That's good. I didn't want to have to cheat logs.

This is probably the 'last guy' that tried it. He got 'lucky' ... tbh! WalMart settled on his behalf.

Kevin Roper / Tracy Morgan 2016

Unplugging your ELD . . . will catch up with you. Read all the intrinsics regarding this case, if you have time.

~ Anne ~

G-Town's Comment
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From an ELD perspective he was perfectly legal. No need to unplug, full set of hours. No proof he attempted this either.

He was off duty and instead of sleeping, he was returning from a graduation party, driving his personal vehicle for many hours from VA to Smyrna DE and went on duty “driving” immediately following that. He fell asleep at the wheel through a speed restricted construction zone.

His negligence killed a man and seriously injured another. Living with that doesn’t make him lucky; he’s forever burdened with the ramifications of his mistake. Lucky? He cost his company millions plus undeserved negative publicity.

Lack of rest/sleep was the cause... nothing to do with unplugging an ELD. Everything to do with irresponsibility and unprofessional behavior.

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No.

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That's good. I didn't want to have to cheat logs.

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This is probably the 'last guy' that tried it. He got 'lucky' ... tbh! WalMart settled on his behalf.

Kevin Roper / Tracy Morgan 2016

Unplugging your ELD . . . will catch up with you. Read all the intrinsics regarding this case, if you have time.

~ Anne ~

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Chris P.'s Comment
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Anne,

I read 3 different articles about that accident, and none of them mention him cheating logs?

Andrey's Comment
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If so, how does one cheat?

This is not a good question on a public forum, where an avatar can be anyone, including a DOT officer.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

IDMtnGal 's Comment
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This is not a good question on a public forum, where an avatar can be anyone, including a DOT officer.

Thank you Andrey....my thoughts exactly.

Chris P.

If people want to cheat, even with electronic logs , they will find a way and it's not necessarily by unplugging it. Will your company ask you to cheat? They shouldn't, but if they do, then you immediately change companies.

Laura

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Bird-One's Comment
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DOT is smarter than what some drivers out here give them credit for. They know what’s going on and what ways drivers are trying to cheat. You will get caught and you will get burned. Not worth your career.

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If so, how does one cheat?

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This is not a good question on a public forum, where an avatar can be anyone, including a DOT officer.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

PackRat's Comment
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DOT is smarter than what some drivers out here give them credit for. They know what’s going on and what ways drivers are trying to cheat. You will get caught and you will get burned. Not worth your career.

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If so, how does one cheat?

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This is not a good question on a public forum, where an avatar can be anyone, including a DOT officer.

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Yep! And the ambulance-chasing, frivolous-lawsuit crowd on the billboards you can see from coast to coast have plenty of investigators that know each and every method that could be attempted to game the system.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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