Bad First Impression!

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Turtle's Comment
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The pups are limited to 28,700 on a single axle

In only a few states, the maximum allowable weight on a single axle is 22,400 lbs. Most have a limit of 20k, if I remember correctly.

Banks's Comment
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The pups are limited to 28,700 on a single axle

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Haven't seen that number before.

I double-checked and the PUPS are GVWR at 40K pounds. Federal law limits trailers to 20K pounds on any single axle.

But I have been wrong before :)

When loading, the limit is 3,200 on the first 4 feet, 11,150 limit on the next 10 feet, 11,150 on the back 10 feet and 3,200 on the last 4 feet. That'll put you at 20k per axle.

You can have a trailer loaded with 18k in it, with 5k in the first 4 feet and it will be over 20k on the drives.

GVWR:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

GVWR is the maximum operating weight of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer, minus any trailers.

Banks's Comment
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The pups are limited to 28,700 on a single axle

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In only a few states, the maximum allowable weight on a single axle is 22,400 lbs. Most have a limit of 20k, if I remember correctly.

No idea, I just know the weight limit per axle. That's the way I was taught. I don't think I've ever pulled a trailer over 22k, but I've definitely pulled over 20k.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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It’s absolutely possible

I picked up a load once, scaled out and was at 79,000 or so. They let me weigh the tandems , and they were legal, and from the airbags, the drives were legal.

Got to the receiver and scaled in at 81,000 or so. Someone’s scale was off, and from the way it pulled, I am sure it was the shipper.

Luckily I was driving ME to NY, and probably have a better chance of hitting the lottery than getting weighed, given our CDA score. There is only 1 permanent scale that is rarely open, and I’ve never had to pull in. Never been inspected or weighed in 3 years other than once in WI where everyone had to pull in and drive across the scale.

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So yes, I just started with a new company this very week. I always think it's a good idea to make a great first impression.

Instead, here I sit at a weigh station in Virginia with a preloaded 36,000 lb load with the tandems slid back as far as the law allows (41ft), and I'm at more than 35,000lbs on the tandems and 22,000lbs on my drives.

What can we learn from this?

Waiting for company to figure out what they want me to do. I was unaware of this fact: Virginia will allow you to carry your load within its borders for 24hrs after an overweight citation. Unfortunately I need to go into North Carolina where another violation can be assessed if I get pulled into a weigh station in that state.

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Wow that’s insane dude. I wouldn’t have thought to scale it either because until now I didn’t know it was even possible for a shipper to load a trailer so incorrectly. Sorry you had to be the one to learn the lesson but thanks for sharing it with us.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

RealDiehl's Comment
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We've actually been in 'email swaps' with your preferred company...as well

Let me know if you have any questions. I can ask my Team Leader (FM) for answers if needed.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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