Pardon My Venting On CDL Applications......

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Ken C.'s Comment
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Funny but after I found out what my holdup issue was I called Millis Transfer back and gave them the new contact info and they had my work history & dates confirmed in 5 min's but said I would need to reapply in 90 days because I had already been denied for Company-Sponsored Training based on the incomplete application data...

If I had of sat around and just waited for every Recruiter to call me back I might not have ever figured out what was causing me to get passed over...I worked at the same place for 12 yrs and left on good terms they just have a certain way of verifying employment data and some of the Recruiters are just too busy/lazy to look it up and follow the prompts..:(

But not the one at Prime Inc....smile.gif

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Minnie Mouse, something in your history is keeping you from getting hired.

Driver Solutions is a company-sponsored program. They didn't turn you down because you have a bad credit score. They turned you down for their company-sponsored program for some other reason. What they were saying is that you could still attend the private school they use for their training if you could get a loan to cover the $6,000 or pay for the schooling up front. But the companies they work with, USA Truck and Pam Transport weren't willing to sponsor your training. They won't give you a reason normally because it opens them up to lawsuits so the general answer is, "We have more qualified applicants" and they'll leave it at that.

So there's something in your past that's keeping you from getting approved for the company-sponsored schools. I don't know what it is, but there's something. It could be something like Ken mentioned, an employer that won't verify your employment record or maybe there's something showing up on your driving record you didn't report....something like that. I don't know what it is. If you think you might know what it is but you don't want to say publicly, shoot me a private message and I'll let you know what I think.

But don't give up. Some of our members here that are out on the road enjoying the heck out of their careers went through some epic struggles to get out there. I mean, Old School should be granted Sainthood or be Knighted or something for the trials and tribulations he went through before finally getting out on the road. Every time something else wouldn't work out properly, of no fault of his own, I would think, "That's it. There's no way this dude is going to keep trying to get his career going. He's gonna say the heck with it and go do something else." But I'm tellin ya....that's one fiercely determined man right there! Now he's been out there for quite a while enjoying his career.

Keep pushing forward. Believe me, getting in is the "easy part"...if there is such a thing as an easy part of trucking. You're going to face struggles like this throughout the first year of your career. Everyone does. So just keep on looking for opportunities and stay determined to make this happen.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

RL P.'s Comment
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Sorry to hear about your hurdles Minnie,

I think everyone has touched on the issues and although there seems to be nothing holding you back on the surface it seems there is.

A private school not taking you for credit issues is understandable. It is understandable they cannot take the risk if a score does not meet their standards. A company not being able to accommodate females at this time could very well be the case. There are many stories of trainers being in short supply and classes being large to start with for company sponsored training , as well as large numbers in orientation for licensed drivers. There harsh winter created a bit of backlog that should be weeding its way through now. Also there are plenty of drivers and soon to be drivers out there given the economy and I think it would be fair to say the pendulum has swung in favor of the companies as recruiters have plenty of applicants to choose from these days.

With that being said it is simple matter of not giving up. Having put in apps 'at every company you can find' maybe its time to find out why you do not qualify in their eyes. Recruiters are busy as can be and the standard no thanks or the blow off can be quite frustrating Im sure. But not knowing or guessing why you cant get in is of no help to you. Get on the phone and contact someone who has processed you application and find out why. Sure it may take some time and several calls before you get some one that will help you to understand what is the hurdle you are dealing with, but some one will help if you simply ask them that. "I was wondering if you could help me understand why.....".

I understand loosing hope and I feel for ya. But pick yourself up, hold your head up, and get on the phone and be honest and professional with these people and see if you can find the answers you need to make this happen for you.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Ken C.'s Comment
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Just Trying to help...Each of these places should have a admissions counselor that can help you fill out the paperwork and maybe find out what the reasons for your trouble getting accepted are. Click on the Blue Text and it will open their pages Midwest Technical Institute , and Ozarks Technical Community College, and C1 Truck Driver Training

Ken

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Ken C.'s Comment
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Serah D.'s Comment
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Hi Minnie,

I don't know about your area but in New Jersey there are private CD schools that offer finance, if you are paying out of pocket. They ask for a low down payment then you pay the balance in installments over 18 months. Maybe you could try and find out. Good Luck!!

Scott B.'s Comment
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Minnie, my apps were denied from at least a dozen companies and every single one said I had to request the why of it in writing from a "driver review board" or some similarly named board. If a recruiter is giving you the dust off ask him if there is a way to obtain info by written request. Once you know the why it will be a lot easier to come up with a solution. Keep trying girl, if you want it bad enough it will happen.

Minnie Mouse's Comment
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I want to thank you all for your ideas and suggestions. I had a great day today. A recruiter called me back and they are getting my reports done. I think part of the problem is I drove for a cab co a few years back. They closed and the owner left town, no way to contact him. But I have my tax papers they gave me, I was considered self employed. The recruiter thinks that may have been the problem. With luck this one will work out and I will be off to school in the next few weeks.

Thanks for hearing a mad half crazy woman vent. And thanks again for all your support.

Old School's Comment
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Thanks for hearing a mad half crazy woman vent. And thanks again for all your support

Ya know Minnie, we all know sometimes a person just needs to vent a little, and we will let you do that here some times. But isn't it impressive how so many people jumped in here to give you some tips and advice, people who don't even know you or have a reason to care, other than the fact that they are all going through, or have gone through the same frustrations you are facing. There is an impressive community in here lately, and I hope we can continue this trend.

Now, I'm going to agree with Brett on the fact that your frustrations are just barely getting started with getting your new career off the ground, so you just jump in here anytime it feels like your up against the wall again (because this will only be one of many hurdles you are going to face). Any time it starts getting tough, I can guarantee you that there are plenty of people here who have climbed that same mountain and can at least sympathize with you, and more than likely will be able to offer you some helpful advice.

Scott B.'s Comment
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Congratulatins Minnie. I know how frustrating it can be. Try to remember which company gave you a chance when you're having a rough day and wanting to call the numbe on the back of the trailer you're following.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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