Company That Hires New CDL Holders But Doesn't Do Follicle Tests

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Hark L.'s Comment
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I'm sure a lot of you will just immediately be negative, but I've searched high and low and haven't found any answers on my question.

I used to smoke pot in a legal state, I never drove while high and didn't drink or do anything else. My company offered to send me to trucking school as part of a promotion, and they have a 2 week express school program. I quit pot immediately, was able to pass the DOT urine test then went through the school and passed on my first try. My issue is that while going through school I realized how much I enjoyed driving the truck, as opposed to eventually training new drivers in my company's rigid training system designed by people who have never or will never drive a truck. My father, grandfather, great grandfather as well as several uncles snd great uncles on both sides were truck drivers, it runs in my blood. I've been looking at starter jobs, and have enough in savings to take a low paying beginner job and get a year or two of experience, then I'd transfer to a better paying position elsewhere and be good to go. The issue is companies look like they either hire beginner drivers and do follicle testing, or require at least a year of experience but don't follicle test. Are there any companies that do both? Again, I smoked legally and responsibly and stopped immediately, and wil l never smoke again until I retire. My urine is clear, but I have really long hair and I'm very hairy and don't want to risk it, but I'd like to make this career move kinda soon before my I really start having to do stuff for my new position in the current company just for a lot of hard work studying to be pointless. I'm based in the northeast about an hour and a half from NYC and two and a half hours from Boston, however I want to go OTR and truly don't care where the company and their training are located. I know I'm gonna get some harsh remarks, but any advice or recommendations would be awesome.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Welcome, Hark!

The best thing you can do is wait a long time before taking any hair follicle test. It's impossible to say how long, but our best guess is 6 - 12 months minimum. None of us really know for sure how far back these companies go on the testing.

You can also pay for a test yourself before taking any official tests so you know you're clean. Just make sure before you take it that the results will be 100% confidential.

If you fail a drug test, your career is pretty much over for the next several years. I can't think of anyone who has told us they failed a drug test and then got another trucking job. I know there are some out there, but it's pretty rare. So consider a failed drug test the end of your career and approach it that way.

Hiring is slow right now and companies are being picky. You can find work, but you don't want any blemishes against you.

You can Apply For Paid CDL Training here on our website, also.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Hark L.'s Comment
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Welcome, Hark!

The best thing you can do is wait a long time before taking any hair follicle test. It's impossible to say how long, but our best guess is 6 - 12 months minimum. None of us really know for sure how far back these companies go on the testing.

You can also pay for a test yourself before taking any official tests so you know you're clean. Just make sure before you take it that the results will be 100% confidential.

If you fail a drug test, your career is pretty much over for the next several years. I can't think of anyone who has told us they failed a drug test and then got another trucking job. I know there are some out there, but it's pretty rare. So consider a failed drug test the end of your career and approach it that way.

Hiring is slow right now and companies are being picky. You can find work, but you don't want any blemishes against you.

You can Apply For Paid CDL Training here on our website, also.

Yeah for sure, if I have to choose between waiting or potentially failing a test I'm making for sure. It's just that waiting entails me having to memorize hundreds of methods, practices, potential scenarios and how you should respond, dozens of shipping origin snd destinations and a bunch of stuff. Just for said knowledge to be pointless a few months later, I know I probably seem like I'm asking for the world but it just seems so useless for me and I'd rather just start on my journey behind the wheel. I realized how much I do not want to have to be a trainer or a supervisor. The first time I went on road in school was almost like the first time I had sex, I didn't know what I was doing for the most part but I knew I loved it and it felt so good lol. Plus my company is dealing with the massive drop in volume like everyone but they're handling it so poorly that I just want to not be around people either miserable that won't rest until you are too, or upper management who are like robots short circuiting using business school buzzwords to try and blame everyone for the low volume they possibly can

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Pelican's Comment
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There's lots of companies that don't do the hair follicle test

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Hows about just getting a hair cut and body wax lol I'm thinking the tips of the hair retains THC, not sure on the science of it all. And smoking in a legal sate or not don't matter. As far as FMSCA and DOT are concerned, ANY drug use isn't good.....Otherwise, looks like as mentioned 6-12 month wait, self test along the way and check.

And by everything out there currently I see trucking related,it's not a drivers market, for new or seasoned drivers.Maybe after the election is done and over things may change for the better economy wise

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Banks's Comment
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They're putting you through a 2 week training program so you can train other drivers?

Errol V.'s Comment
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The official amount of time the hair test is good for is 90 days. I asked the nurse h\\who gave me that haircut (a bit taken on the back of my head). So waiting 6 months and otherwise staying clean should do the trick. The FMCSA specifies the urine test, but any company is free to do their own testing and make their own hiring decision.

The one hearsay I've heard is the one where the person shaves & waxes every last hair from his body - even pubes, and that can be considered a refusal to take the test. Also, occasionally hanging with another toker is not cause for alarm - wash your hair before any possible follicle test and you'll be good in that department.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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Can they pull a nose hair for a follicle test?

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I guess i am confused about your dissatisfaction. In one statement you are critiquing a rigid training system designed by those whom you say have no experience driving a CMV , then you follow that up with the fact that you will be training drivers, when you yourself acknowledge your two weeks of driver training. Is there a reason you can't do both with them, drive and also do the training tasks?

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Pianoman's Comment
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I wish I could give you a list of companies that don’t require a hair follicle test but I don’t have one. I would honestly just start calling the bigger companies that train new drivers and ask the recruiters. Werner, Schneider, Prime, Knight, JB Hunt, CR England, May Trucking—these are several that come to mind right away. I think they all take new drivers if I remember right. I didn’t mention Swift because I already know they require a hair follicle test.

Hark L.'s Comment
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They're putting you through a 2 week training program so you can train other drivers?

Nope, I only had 2 weeks at a trucking school to learn everything and pass the test to actually get my CDL. I was there with students who were doing 3, 6, and even 9 months programs but I had 2 weeks to learn everything from the pre trip, brake test, pre trip, backing, shifting, anything that was required to actually get my CDL. I passed my test on the first try, so it's definitely doable just ridiculously short in my opinion.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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