In Cab Surviellance?

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MRC's Comment
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Just wondering which companies are already running full time camera and/or who is implementing it for next year? I know that UPS has them installed. The driver says you can opt out of monitoring this year but next year they will be on 24/7 . Have a great day

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Ok I was not going to do a serious post on this subject but it seems like it's still up for some kind of debate.

Here is the deal. The front of the cab, the seats, is an work area. Legally you have to be on-duty or driving to be in this area. It's apart of the dot regs. Go look it up. And since it's a work area companies have a right to make sure their work areas are safe since it can come back on them if one of their employees are being unsafe. And since there is no expected "Rights of Privacy" in this work area then companies can record all they want to.

The sleeper area is your private area. No cameras back there. That is why there is a curtain to pull closed when your not driving. This is a pretty clear cut black and white situation.

Either except that companies might be recoding you, as stated only happens during VERY specific situations, and have a decent career OR move onto another company that does not.

I have posted a video on here that shows the benefit of me running a dash cam to protect myself incase of an accident and not one person said it was a bad idea.... So what is wrong with a company protecting itself from drivers that are unsafe while behind the wheel? Why the double standards?

As I clearly stated earlier the front of the cab is defined in very narrow term as a work space. If your working and do g what your supposed to be doing, driving and nothing else but driving, then why should someone that is safe have anything to worry about?

Maybe I should not have posted a thing on here. I expect that some people will be upset by this post but oh well. Cameras don't lie. If someone is fired for something they got caught doing on the camera then maybe they should not have done it. It's pretty open and closed. Maybe some people are worried about getting caught sending that quick one word text? Well maybe that should not be done while driving huh?

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I think it just creeps people out to have a camera two feet away staring them in the face continuously. On top of that, it's in a vehicle. If it was up out of the way like in a warehouse or a bank I don't think it would be as weird. I think most people nowadays are being recorded most of the time they're out of their house. But having a camera two feet from your face pointed right between your eyes every second of your life out there? That takes some getting used to. I mean, it might not bother a celebrity, but not many truck drivers have spent time with a camera in their face being monitored continuously.

And of course that type of "in your face" monitoring is at the heart of every single "Big Brother Conspiracy" book ever written and they all end badly for the people!

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Chris L.'s Comment
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Sygma Network has them, one camera on the driver and one points out the windshield, and they record sound. I'm now with Prime and so far no cameras.

Allyn L.'s Comment
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I believe Conway Freightload is rolling out driver facing cameras. Not something I would care for but I guess I could learn to tolerate it.

Steve C.'s Comment
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When I was with TMC I had a driver facing camera (they were just testing, i think less than 200 trucks had them). The camera wasn't always recording, it was just triggered either by a critical event (hard brake, collision) or if the driver pressed the button on the camera. The footage was then sent to a third party to evaluate (making sure it wasn't a false positive) before sending it on to the company. I never had mine record anything. If the camera worked as described above, I would always be fine with it. Any that the employer can just "peek in" for any reason, or no reason at all, I would have a problem with.

Chris L.'s Comment
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The cameras in Sygmas trucks are always recording but are only reviewed if they are set off. If set off they will show 8 seconds before that event. I set a camera off just by hooking up to a trailer before, but if your wearing your seatbelt and not on the phone they won't even mention it. I was told they can't just look anytime, they have to be set off.

MRC's Comment
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Just wondering how far it has spread so far. I've heard about the event cameras which truthfully I have no problem with. If I have to slam my brakes on or over steer to miss (or at least try) an accident I'd like it recorded to prove the action. My only problem is like anything touched or run by the government, what starts out innocent and in your best interest slowly becomes a NSA affair, They'll be adding on another wing with a couple 100 people to monitor the DOT you tube channel starring, YOU. thanks, MRC

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Bud A.'s Comment
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Just wondering how far it has spread so far. I've heard about the event cameras which truthfully I have no problem with. If I have to slam my brakes on or over steer to miss (or at least try) an accident I'd like it recorded to prove the action. My only problem is like anything touched or run by the government, what starts out innocent and in your best interest slowly becomes a NSA affair, They'll be adding on another wing with a couple 100 people to monitor the DOT you tube channel starring, YOU. thanks, MRC

The NSA is building (or maybe has completed by now) a data center in Utah that has the capacity to store every human communication for 100 years (phone, email, etc.). They can already watch and listen to you through the cameras and microphone on your smart phone. They can track you and read all the data on your phone. These are simple facts with far-reaching implications. I don't like the idea either, but having your company monitor you is minor compared to having the government monitor you.

Utah Data Center

NSA access to communications

NSA has access to most smartphone data

NSA access to iPhones

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dustan J.'s Comment
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I wouldn't mind if my future employer installed a camera that proved my actions. A camera facing me would only tempt me to pick my nose or something. Anyhow, if I don't get a dashcam in my future truck, I will install a GoPro for my own protection. Had one recruiter come into school last week talking about a forward facing camera that was designed to brake the truck in near-miss instances or something to that effect. I thought "Cool, crash protection always helps". Either on this site or other sites I have read references to cameras in trucks being activated for no reason at all and the driver just had to put up with it. Goes back to the nose-picking. Couldn't possibly resist it. I'd last maybe two minutes and then I'd have to do something obnoxious for the camera.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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I wouldn't mind if my future employer installed a camera that proved my actions. A camera facing me would only tempt me to pick my nose or something. Anyhow, if I don't get a dashcam in my future truck, I will install a GoPro for my own protection. Had one recruiter come into school last week talking about a forward facing camera that was designed to brake the truck in near-miss instances or something to that effect. I thought "Cool, crash protection always helps". Either on this site or other sites I have read references to cameras in trucks being activated for no reason at all and the driver just had to put up with it. Goes back to the nose-picking. Couldn't possibly resist it. I'd last maybe two minutes and then I'd have to do something obnoxious for the camera.

I would purposely hit the button on the camera and do something also. I doubt I would do it but the thought of "insert anything here" be staged for the camera could be funny and turn really weird in a few second. Maybe a new form of amateur solo porn. Hey I would try anything at least once. rofl-3.gif

MRC's Comment
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Well thanks for that vivid thought!shocked.png I'll have that plastered in my brain as I try and take my Hazmat today. MRC

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

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