On Duty/off Duty

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Scott O.'s Comment
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How do you get loaded/unloaded without starting your time..... I had parked for the night at a pilot which was .7th of a mile from my final drop so I crept to it and got unloaded but when I departed my consignee my Qualcomm freaked out cuz I wasn't on duty..... How do you get away with it..... Thank you

Consignee:

The customer the freight is being delivered to. Also referred to as "the receiver". The shipper is the customer that is shipping the goods, the consignee is the customer receiving the goods.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Woody's Comment
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Was it freaking out because you were unloaded or because you started driving without logging some on duty time for your pre trip?

Woody

Daniel B.'s Comment
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Scott, sorry I missed your question when you asked me it a few days ago. I was planning on it, but then someone said I have no integrity and that made me completely forget about your question.

Your QC freaked out because you were moving with no time on your HoS. It always does this. Different companies set up the QC differently. It's up to you to find out how yours works. But you should be able to drive that .7 miles without starting your clock and getting a violation. The QC might scream at you, but those are warning, not violations.

So next time this happens, i would drive as fast as possible from point A to B. Remember the minimum duty status is 5 minutes so as long as you finish doing what you're doing in under 4 minutes you'll be fine.

The answer is not to put yourself On-Duty. In your situation, you had no hours available so why get a violation when you can get away with it? You can only move a short distance before the QC automatically puts you on Driving status. As great of a distance depends on how the company has it set up, but it's usually around 2 miles.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Scott O.'s Comment
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Scott, sorry I missed your question when you asked me it a few days ago. I was planning on it, but then someone said I have no integrity and that made me completely forget about your question.

Your QC freaked out because you were moving with no time on your HoS. It always does this. Different companies set up the QC differently. It's up to you to find out how yours works. But you should be able to drive that .7 miles without starting your clock and getting a violation. The QC might scream at you, but those are warning, not violations.

So next time this happens, i would drive as fast as possible from point A to B. Remember the minimum duty status is 5 minutes so as long as you finish doing what you're doing in under 4 minutes you'll be fine.

The answer is not to put yourself On-Duty. In your situation, you had no hours available so why get a violation when you can get away with it? You can only move a short distance before the QC automatically puts you on Driving status. As great of a distance depends on how the company has it set up, but it's usually around 2 miles.

I had plenty of hos... My QC wuz going off cuz I wuz not on duty while at shipper/receiver getting unloaded/loaded... I've seen people post about trying to stay at a stop so they don't start there time and just wanna know how to get away with it.... And I worked for central/swift the time and sent my macro for empty and that's when my QC went off

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Justin N.'s Comment
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Sending any type of Unloaded macro has to be done while onduty or driving. If you do it while off duty or in sleeper then that will get flagged.

If the logs for your company get audited then who knows what will happen.

I do the same thing you do, park close or even at the receiver to wait till I can deliver. I send the unloaded call either right before going off duty or after my ten hour break during my next pretrip.

Scott O.'s Comment
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Sending any type of Unloaded macro has to be done while onduty or driving. If you do it while off duty or in sleeper then that will get flagged.

If the logs for your company get audited then who knows what will happen.

I do the same thing you do, park close or even at the receiver to wait till I can deliver. I send the unloaded call either right before going off duty or after my ten hour break during my next pretrip.

Thank you all for the replys.... I can't remember if I wuz on duty or not I'm sure I wuz off duty as this happened in june ...... I have another question?????? Do you have to keep your mph under 5 or you can drive as fast as you want for less then 5 minutes

Rolling Thunder's Comment
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Again, that depends on how the company sets it up. You just gotta tinker with it to find the sweet spots.

My company allows me to send macs in any duty status and even logged out. I can go up to 25mph for 1.6 m before I am automatically put on driving status. I don`t have to worry about that either because I have a line 5. (off duty driving). Of course it is frowned upon by safety if we use this option, but, sometimes I have to bend the rules to get the load where it needs to be and on time. This is a subject you will need to cover with your FM/DM (off record) to establish how far you can push the envelope without reprimand. I am not saying any of this is right, but, in my case, it is necessary.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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