Pre Trip At Celedon

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William I.'s Comment
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Hello everyone Im on week one at Celedon. I have past my permit tests and have my permit hoping to get on the range monday, if there is room. My question is I have been told that celedon does not train you on the pre trip? How can this be? For those that have no idea how something should be said to the pre trip tester which will be done at schneider, can someone give some advise? I have been watching the video and I keep my tv on channel 11 which is the pre trip video it stays on 24/7.

Thank you,

William

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Dragon 13's Comment
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Hello everyone Im on week one at Celedon. I have past my permit tests and have my permit hoping to get on the range monday, if there is room. My question is I have been told that celedon does not train you on the pre trip? How can this be? For those that have no idea how something should be said to the pre trip tester which will be done at schneider, can someone give some advise? I have been watching the video and I keep my tv on channel 11 which is the pre trip video it stays on 24/7.

Thank you,

William

Hey William, is it that crowded in Indy? I'm due at Celadon in Indy in a couple of weeks. Good luck and stay positive.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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It's true Celadon does not teach you the pre-trip. however by the time you get to the range there will be plenty of other students to help you study. I went to Celadon when we still had to stay in greenfield and bus in with 145 students....you'll be fine.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I don't know what Celadon is thinking, but you can work with TT's Pre-Trip Study Guide

Pepper's Comment
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Here in Laredo, we get a pre-trip handout.

Len S.'s Comment
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Celadon is a great company and the facility is awesome, but they lack in instructor/student ratio. Brian is a great range instructor and will help you wherever you need. The biggest downfall to Celadon is the training program can last up to several months.

good luck to you

Tater's Comment
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Knight in Indy gave a handout on the pretrip as well. It was also Indiana state specific or at least we were told as much. We were also told to learn it word for word. No adlibbing, no changing it around. I later found out from several students who PASSED that thats not true. What you DO have to do is hit at least two "descriptors" for each item. In other words say you're talking about the alternator. You should provide at least two descriptors like "properly mounted and secured" and "wires not cut damaged or frayed" "belt tension no more than 3/4in." You get the idea. Just make sure you know what to point out and how to describe it. The order you do it does not matter, the adjectives or descriptors you use, does not matter. One thing that will help is you are there looking right at the truck so if you just look and talk about what you see, that will help guide you. I mean the dipstick, the alternator, the gearbox pitman arm etc etc are all right there staring back at you. If it it mounted, say it should be tight. If it has liquid in it, say it should have no leaks, it it can crack or break say its not cracked damaged or leaking. Just look around. You have time, use it.

Tater

Errol V.'s Comment
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What you DO have to do is hit at least two "descriptors" for each item. In other words say you're talking about the alternator. You should provide at least two descriptors like "properly mounted and secured" and "wires not cut damaged or frayed" "belt tension no more than 3/4in." You get the idea. Just make sure you know what to point out and how to describe it. The order you do it does not matter, the adjectives or descriptors you use, does not matter. One thing that will help is you are there looking right at the truck so if you just look and talk about what you see, that will help guide you. I mean the dipstick, the alternator, the gearbox pitman arm etc etc are all right there staring back at you. If it it mounted, say it should be tight. If it has liquid in it, say it should have no leaks, it it can crack or break say its not cracked damaged or leaking. Just look around. You have time, use it.

Tater

That's it, Tater, just look at stuff and talk about it. So the important thing is the names of stuff, especially the steering system. Learn the names so as you scan the part you can say something about it.

Look at the 5th wheel, the pivot pin: "The 5th wheel pivot pin is secure, the Cotter pin is in place."

In Swift road training, one student passed his Pre-Trip eval by reciting the whole thing to the instructor while sitting in the back seat of the (training) cab. He said it was the hardest thing he did in the training academy.

Scotty D's Comment
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Our CDL instructor gave us this easy to remember descriptor. If it contains liquid, you say it is not cracked, damaged or leaking. If it does not, you say it is not cracked, damaged or loose...both use the acronym C.D.L.!! That made it much easier to concentrate on what I was describing rather than how I was describing it.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Jay R. R2-Detour 's Comment
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Our CDL instructor gave us this easy to remember descriptor. If it contains liquid, you say it is not cracked, damaged or leaking. If it does not, you say it is not cracked, damaged or loose...both use the acronym C.D.L.!! That made it much easier to concentrate on what I was describing rather than how I was describing it.

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This is very accurate. When I took my exam Friday, the examiner only really listened for two descriptors and told me to move on. He did make sure I pointed at the correct parts also.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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